New Article on Cesar Parra Controversy

Ooh, I remember hearing about that. I do not recall the name of the horse but I remember there was some conjecture about how coincidental it was that Parra was a dentist.

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Oh, I agree that is the culture
I’m just saying if those trainers want my money, I write the checks my way or I leave.

On a much smaller scale, I had a 4-yr old young stallion (that had cost more than my F-250) that was recently backed right before I bought him. I was working full-time with long days and could only ride at night after work. A young “up and coming pro rider” offered to put some rides on him. I agreed, but after a while (month or so) I decided this was my horse and I better figure out how to ride it. I told her no more rides, and that I was taking over riding my horse. OMG!!! The drama! You would have thought I had killed her first born or something.

So I do understand the expectations
but if a trainer wants my money, they play by my rules. On the other hand, I can understand a trainer saying if you want me to be your trainer YOU play by my rules
whereupon I walk.

Different strokes for different folks.

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That’s an interesting point about him being a dentist.

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The scenario you describe has also happened to me in dressageland and saddleseat land. I get it, the horse won’t progress as fast with me, a relative newbie to those two seats (not a new rider, just less experienced in those disciplines) but I bought the horse for me not for you.

But I don’t buy investment horses anymore. So my frame of reference is decidedly different than they are used to anymore.

Not arguing, just agreeing :laughing:

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Totally agree


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Quick side story about owners paying the bills handed to them, and not being aware of what the items are for.
My vet had a client who was a wealthy adult amateur dressage rider. Her trainer was a internationally known BNT. The vet did some work on the client’s horse, and as usual sent the bill to the client.
It wasn’t paid right away which was unusual, and the vet sent reminders.
One day the vet got a call from the owner’s husband. He asked the vet why she was sending bills to them. She explained it was for work she did on the horse. The husband replied “What horse ?”
He had no idea his wife had bought a very expensive dressage horse a year or so prior,
and that she had been hiding the bills from him.

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I am moderately ashamed to admit that I did this to my husband.

To be fair, the horse only cost $1000 and he was not a fancy dressage horse but it was the first horse “we” owned as a couple. I was working at the barn where the former owner had him. No idea what finally tipped him off but I will never forget his face when he asked “Do we own a horse?” :laughing:

He has forgiven me mostly but 20 years later still brings that one up on occasion.

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What about a CT scan? They do pretty good 3D imaging these days

The challenge with advanced imaging (both CT and MRI) is fitting a horse to the level of C7 into the scanner. Those machines are few and far between. There are two issues: the weight limit of the gantry, and the size of the opening.

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The equine neck can only be imaged in one plane, not two. Cervical instability is still sometimes a diagnosis of exclusion or a postmortem diagnosis.

Actually, Sharon Mayes and associates have come up woith a radiographic protocol that identifies ECVM from x-rays. There are specific instructions for which planes and angles to use on her FB page.

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ECVM of C6 is only one potential cause of Wobbler’s signs (stenosis).

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From the Dressage News article (April 9) about the lawsuit:
“Belle Ami was declared CDI3* Small Tour champion at Dressage at Devon, Pennsylvania in 2021. However, discovery of a banned medication in the horse led to disqualification by the FEI. The USEF failed to impose the penalties for more than a year until the organization was notified of the case by the same attorney who represents Centrella.”

Wondering how USEF missed the FEI’s positive test result.
I assumed the two organizations share testing data.

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Response to post 615: Give me a cigarette and tell me where she is.

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This has already been posted probably here. Seems there is movement.

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Thanks for the update
USEF appears to be useless.

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Once again, USEF drops the ball and will follow whatever FEI decides to do. So much for horse welfare and athlete protection.

Yuck.

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What an absolute embarrassment for the USEF. They just take your money and look the other way on any problem. Pathetic.

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I don’t know. The whole thing is that this abuse did not happen at a competition. Competitions are what the USEF oversees.
They can ban him from competitions but what he does at home? It would seem an overreach of their power.
For instance, USEF makes rules about which bits are legal at shows. If you choose to use a bit that is illegal at home, should the USEF step in and tell you that you can’t use it?
No, this isn’t simply using an illegal bit. This abuse is HORRIBLE. But I’m not sure this is the place for the USEF to step in. Ban him from shows, yes.

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so have they banned him from shows?

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My complaint is not with the fact that the USEF can’t do anything because it wasn’t at a show, but that they haven’t been vocal about why they can’t and if they are working closely with the FEI or not. Whatever the FEI decides will trickle down to USEF. All well and good, but the silence on all fronts (USEF, USDF, FEI) is deafening.

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