New Gooseneck Questions

I’m getting my first gooseneck trailer soon! I have a couple of questions:

  1. When getting the hitch installed, should I also have electric installed in the bed? The trailer guy who will do the work said I wouldn’t want to continue to use the plug near the bumper (not the same person I’m buying the trailer from). At an additional $135, is this worth it?

  2. It’s a new trailer that will be delivered to my house. Do I tip the delivery guy? If so, how much?

Anything else I should know about making the switch? I’ve only had bumper pulls for the last 30 years.

I have always had the plug installed in the bed of my trucks as well as the bumper. I always plug the electric into the bed when pulling a gooseneck. Right now I have a flat bed on my my truck and the bed plug is located in the recessed area where the ball is.

I will occasionally hook the electric to the bumper plug if I am just moving a trailer around the farm, but after have a plug pull out of the bumper and get drug and destroyed over 100 miles away from home on a Sunday, it has always been “safer” to plug into the bed.

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I would for sure have the electric run into the bed. Otherwise the cord will have to go up and over the tailgate.

Go to an an empty parking lot do some turning and backing practice. I think you’ll like the improvement the gooseneck will give you.

Have fun with your new trailer. :slight_smile:

G.

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THIS! ^^^

I’m new to the world of goosenecks, too. I’ve had mine a couple months now.

One thing I learned (the hard way, of course) might be obvious but it sure wasn’t to me. I have a short bed pick, which I know is part of the problem, but I didn’t realize how much easier it is to knock out the back glass of your truck while backing up on a turn versus having the same clearance going forward on the same (or tighter) turn.

I made the switch a couple of years ago and I’ve never been happier! I don’t think I could go back to a BP now. The GN is so much more stable feeling.

I only have the plug in the bumper, and I haven’t ever had an issue with it (or I guess haven’t had an issue yet?).

I have a long bed truck and was told by the trailer sales place that I could completely jack knife the trailer backing up with no issue. Well, I learned (at 2am in Calgary in a tight spot) that wasn’t entirely true - I punched out one of my back windows and creased the frame. Ugh. Maybe it’s even worse with a short bed, but you certainly can still damage the back of your truck with a long bed!

I think backing up is harder in a gooseneck. This was driven home to me when I had back up 1/2 a mile on a single lane dirt road a while back. Would have been a piece of cake in my bumper pull - took me over an hour in my gooseneck. But maybe it’s just because I haven’t figured out “the trick” to backing up a gooseneck in a straight line??? Maybe the biggest difference, IMO, is that when you turn the wheel the BP reacts almost immediately where the GN takes a minute to respond, which means you have to plan ahead in regard to corrections and overcorrections. I agree that taking it to an empty parking lot and playing around with it would be a much better idea than waiting until you need it fit it into a tight parking spot at a show (or anywhere else)!

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I’ve hauled with gooseneck trailers plenty.

Having the electrical plug in the bumper hasn’t really been a big deal for me.

Biggest annoyance with electrical for me has been the fuse box location (s) on a 2008 Ford F350… nightmare.

Backing up has been easier for me since I began thinking of the trailer as my horse’s haunches and the steering wheel as my leg. Use left leg (steer to left) and the horse’s haunches go right (trailer goes to right). If I oversteer one way or the other, I pull forward to straighten out and then start over. I’m pretty good at putting the trailer right where I want it (within six inches, as I am usually backing up to a gate to load cattle). Unless my husband is watching, then I get nervous and do weird stuff trying to back up.

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I’m really looking forward to the increased stability, especially when sharing highways with semis. You guys are starting to scare me with the backing up and broken window stories! I’ll definitely practice first! I have a tight parking spot at home, so I better get good at it pretty fast.

I’ve never broken a window.
I do remember that after my horse (the trailer) DOES move it’s haunches (start the turn) that I ought to take my leg off (let the steering wheel come back more toward center).

Yeah, a big empty parking lot will be good. Don’t scare yourself, if you bring someone to “help” make sure that they know how to just be quiet, calm and let you explore and find it yourself.

And remember that a gooseneck trailer will cut the corner on turns, give your truck nice wide turns so you don’t run the trailer over a curb.

  1. I’ve driven trucks with GN’s with the plug in the bed and with it by the bumper. Never really made much of a difference.

  2. I think the tip would be totally up to you. I did not when I had mine delivered.

on top of the practice backing, etc advice, I’ll add do NOT forget to put your tailgate down for hitching and put it back up before you drive off. Then again down again when you unhitch. This probably seems like silly advice, but I’ve seen so many trucks where people obviously drove into the GN and I’ve seen it happen a few times in person

I prefer to have the hook up in the trailer bed. You will love your GN very soon.

I had mine delivered about 600 miles. I was in a hurry and the younger guy slept in his truck to wait out a storm. I tipped $100 he refused to take it but I insisted.

If you decide to use the bumper plug in and not have one installed in the bed (my choice), make sure you don’t lend your trailer to someone without a tailgate on their truck. You WILL be doing some wiring replacement after the cable drags on the ground on the highway and removes the insulation from a section of wiring. Lesson learnt, and I’m happy to pass it on to someone else so they don’t have to learn the hard way :slight_smile:

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I’ve owned three GN trailers, pulled with 4 different trucks, and never broken out a window, or even come close. I actually think it’s easier to back a BN than a BP, as a BP seems to jack-knife more easily, but it does take more room (a longer distance) IME. During the years I owned two different BP trailers, I missed what I consider the greater predictability of backing the GNs!

Mentally, although my goal is, of course, to back the trailer straight, the minute course corrections I must make over slightly uneven surfaces – such as backing down our gravel drive onto the matted trailer parking area, or over pasture at a trail head, or in the grass at a clinic – make me visualize the trailer moving backwards along a slightly wavy path. Think a little to the left, a little to the right, and so on, resulting in a relatively straight line.

As for the plug in the bed, that feature was always included with hitch installation, and I used that location exclusively with my 8-foot bed pickups. Now that I’ve got a late-model one with a 6.5 bed that has higher sides, though, it’s more difficult for small me to reach the in-bed plug and much easier to plug into the bumper, so that’s what I’ve switched to for the last couple of hauls. My trailer has plenty of cord length and frame gaps under the nose I can access, so there is no danger in dragging the cord for my particular set-up.

I have the electrical inside the bed of the truck.

Backing for me was easier and I have had to back down a road for about a mile before because of no turn-around. Practice backing with an empty trailer don’t wait until you have to do it.

Get a recessed ball if you don’t have one. My ex had a ball put on that could be used for a 5th wheel if we chose to get it. Well here it is many moons later no 5th wheel. It is also very heavy for me to take out the equipment to get the whole bed of my truck.

Learn to watch for cars that try to slip in on your right when you are swinging out for a turn! A.H.s.

and be careful your first couple of times in a gas station - remember that they have those poles in place to protect the pumps!

Whats the bed size on the trailer? Also is your truck diesel? With a longer trailer you may need to scope out the diesel pumps before you drive all the way into the refueling area! And look for how you will need to swing to pull out!

When backing you will need to learn how to swing the nose of your truck out and around, that will take practice.

A#1 thing for hitching help! https://www.jefferspet.com/products/…lper-30-yellow

Thanks all! I got the hitch installed and had them go ahead with the electric in the bed. My major issue now is my driveway. It’s steep and on a gravel road, so it’s a tight turn that immediately goes up. Took the delivery guy two tries to do it without running up on the bank or denting the top of his truck bed with the angle (but he admitted to being a gooseneck newbie himself). I only have 50’ of road frontage, but I might be able to cut back one of the banks for better turning. I’ll just have to be careful with the steepness, though. It seems to work okay from one direction, but not the other. Luckily, I can still go north by turning south out of my driveway with only about a two mile detour, so if that’s the way it has to be, I can deal with that. So far I haven’t driven it out, but did hook it up and practice my turnaround area.

MANGO20 I had the same sort of driveway for years. You get used to it! YOu gotta kind of bank it and hit the gas at the right moment :-0