New horse

[Reynard]

[QUOTE=Sarahfay94;8938845]
This horse is special to me for many reasons. And i dont care what it takes to make him a trail horse. And yes i am perfectly fine with him being a “lawn ornament” if he absolutely cannot be broke to ride. My uncle is confident that he can be trained to ride. Hes already got him saddle broke. And he will help brake him in to ride before we come get him. Hes aware of where he will go and everything and knows that he will get nothing but the best care possible. I already have a farrier lined up, still deciding between vets, and aside from us training him i have been talking to a few horse trainers about what itd take to get him rideable and help with training. None have turned us down for him being a retired gelded stallion. I will not sit here and continue to argue with everyone. If you have real helpful advice pertaining to the original post please feel free to comment. Otherwise i will not respond to anymore negative remarks. Thank you. Good day.[/QUOTE]

Translation: I love this horse so much, I am willing to cripple him.

[ladyj79]

Again, are we sure a kid didn’t just find that website listing those two horses and concoct this story? Also good catch in the deformed leg so never broke changes things considerably even if the thread is genuine if OP doesn’t understand the horse is crippled.

[ChasPonyCat]

[QUOTE=barnchick277;8938827]
In googling Ali Saareef this popped up:

http://www.elowrah.com/private-treaty-news/

Looks like he might have a deformity due to an injury at birth?

ETA: Oops! Looks like Reynard already found that[/QUOTE]

Very interesting website. Contact info is for Ohio though, so that doesn’t explain the Florida thing (if that website is current).

Very interesting website.

[Laurierace]

So his leg is no longer deformed? I thought this was a bad idea before hearing that critical piece of information…

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=ybiaw;8938829]
Well, whatever. Do what you want.

A bumper pull trailer would be fine. Goosenecks are a little more solid to pull, imo, but a BP is fine. You MUST have a good pulling vehicle. Like an F250 or similar.

You’ll need to make sure you have trailer insurance and a roadside assistance service before you make the trip to go get these horses.

As far as supplies down the line, you’ll need boots, wraps, saddles, saddle pads, extra stirrup leathers, bridles, extra bridle pieces, bits, grooming supplies, fly spray, sheets, blankets, bandages, wound care, etc. Basically anything that you’d need for any horse, which is something you should already know.

And also, life insurance.[/QUOTE]

Truck we have a 2003 chevy 2500 hd. I think the towing capacity is like 10k pounds? So i know its more than capable of pulling. Its pulled plenty. It has nee tires and we plan to do new brakes, oil change, basic tune up etc and just get an overal inspection before going. Trailers weve had a hard time deciding on what to purchase. My husband said he wants a double axel no matter what. He kinda likes the gooseneck because he feels they hold weight better but doesnt like that he loses his bed. And bumper pull he worries about some but knows his truck is meant for hauling. Ive looked at a lot of first aid kits but ive also seen a lot of people say some stuff is unnecessary or they never used it and spent a ton on the premade kits. So i was looking for a good solid list of stuff that people actually feel they absolutely can not do without in their kit for traveling long distance.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=ChasPonyCat;8938858]
Very interesting website. Contact info is for Ohio though, so that doesn’t explain the Florida thing (if that website is current).

Very interesting website.[/QUOTE]

He lives in ohio. I will be traveling from florida to ohio to get him.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=Laurierace;8938859]
So his leg is no longer deformed? I thought this was a bad idea before hearing that critical piece of information…[/QUOTE]

His leg has a slight turn thats it. It doesnt cause him any problems what so ever. He can gallop and trot perfectly fine. Again im not asking input on getting him or not or what hes worth. I am getting this horse reguardless. Read original post and answer or dont comment.

[Nootka]

[QUOTE=Sarahfay94;8938866]
His leg has a slight turn thats it. It doesnt cause him any problems what so ever. He can gallop and trot perfectly fine. Again im not asking input on getting him or not or what hes worth. I am getting this horse reguardless. Read original post and answer or dont comment.[/QUOTE]

You really think people on this forum are going to “ohhh no she said or don’t comment”. Get real. Well, apparently that isn’t something in your DNA because this whole post reeks of a stank fantasy land

[ChasPonyCat]

[QUOTE=Nootka;8938872]
You really think people on this forum are going to “ohhh no she said or don’t comment”. Get real. Well, apparently that isn’t something in your DNA because this whole post reeks of a stank fantasy land[/QUOTE]

The verbiage on the website might explain a bit. It seems very fantasy-landesque. If this is indeed real and she’s really close to the uncle, well, it could explain what we are reading here.

[Foxglove6]

What he does on his own in the field has no bearing on if he can bear weight and be ridden and stay sound.

As long as you are fine with having a pasture pet and not riding him, have at it.

But you cannot make that determination yourself. A professional trainer (that you pay money) and a vet will need to do that.

EDIT: I went to the website and clicked around a bit. Wow. :eek: Definitely invest in some life insurance so that your kids will be taken care of.

[JustTheTicket]

[QUOTE=barnchick277;8938827]
In googling Ali Saareef this popped up:

http://www.elowrah.com/private-treaty-news/

Looks like he might have a deformity due to an injury at birth?

ETA: Oops! Looks like Reynard already found that[/QUOTE]

Having now read the “who lives here” tab on that page, I see where the OP gets her ideas about magical connections with horses. I’m also thinking uncle is a hobby breeder who doesn’t know much about horses himself. I’m sold on a barely halter broke stallion who apparently rears on command. That’s totally beginner safe.

[Reynard]

Could be the ‘uncle,’ hoping that someone will feel enough pity for the horse and buy the animal to spare him from a life with the ‘niece.’

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=adelmo95;8938813]
If you like him and feel comfortable handling him on the ground and would be ok with the prospect of him being a lawn ornament if things don’t go as planned then you should go for it. I will echo what others have said in that things might not be easy.

Almost a year ago now I purchased an unstarted 10 year old Trakehner gelding as a project. He has the who’s who of Trakehner’s in his pedigree including a sire that was stallion of the year in Germany in I believe 2001, jumped to grand prix and has produced numerous grand prix dressage and jumpers. This one was imported as a stallion prospect but was later gelded and then just left for years. So at 10 years he was halter broke but that was the extent of his training. I have been able to get him going well undersaddle however without question would say he was the toughest horse I have had to start. Lessons that would take a youngster 3 or 4 rides to accept took months and a happy medium of patience and discipline to accomplish. After a year he is still more opinionated than the average horse and I think some of it stems from so many years getting to do whatever he wanted.

Do I enjoy riding and working with my guy, definitely! However would I trust him with a beginner rider NOPE! Can I safely trail ride him yes, would I ever try to make it his career, NO! Do I regret my decision to get him, as a resale project perhaps not the best choice, for the daily enjoyment he brings me when I go ride I don’t regret it although there were days I did question my sanity early on.

I am not saying that your guy will turn out the way my gelding did however would caution you to not set your hopes too high on turning a former breeding stallion into a trail horse. Things may work out, they may not. If you want a project a safer bet would be to find a nice quiet young quarter horse with a solid start.[/QUOTE]

Weather he becomes a rideable trail horse or not is fine by me. I know hes a good natured horse. And i have a lot of time to devote to him. And i am willing to take that risk. In my eyes he is worth every bump, scrape, bruise, broken bones etc.

I trust my uncle, and i love him. And for him to give me one of his horses is one of my dreams. For many many years ive waited for this day.

I have looked on craigslist, Equinenow, and a few other horse websites and looked at all horses in the state of florida. And no matter what, none appeal to me. I have yet to meet him, but he already has a special place in my heart. From the moment i saw him i knew he was meant to be mine. And as ive said before with all my animals ive had that gut feeling about and acted on ive never regretted a moment.

I am fully prepared to do anything and everything possible to get him and make him a rideable horse. I have no problem with admitting i know ill need help from professional trainers and ive been looking into several. Not only do i want to find the right person to help train him but someone i know i can trust my horse with. I dont want anyone to get hurt in the process, but as i said my girls will not be riding him.

I am thrilled about getting this horse. What hes worth means nothing to me. His pedigree is not important. I know he is a good horse and he has a lot of potential. And i see that and so does my husband. And we now have the opportunity to have a horse and i am going to take my chances and get this horse.

I didnt want to start a debate on to get him or not. I am getting him period.

[2DogsFarm]

Nootka - please change your sig to include the Poopyhead Credo

She is getting the horse regardless.

-Regardless of her admittedly Novice level of experience & questionable ever-widening circle of assistants* that morphs as she embroiders the tale.
*first just a friend with a place to keep the horse, then trainers eager to take on the potential trainwreck, a willing farrier as well & vet TBD

-Regardless of how many experienced horse trainers/breeders on here have opined it might not be a good or safe match.

-Regardless that although money is tight she is now looking into purchasing a trailer.

-Regardless… etcetera, ad nauseum.

ETA: I see OP has added a sig line
Kewl.

Well past time for popcorn & boxed wine.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=Reynard;8938889]
Could be the ‘uncle,’ hoping that someone will feel enough pity for the horse and buy the animal to spare him from a life with the ‘niece.’[/QUOTE]

No. Hes had him up there for some time now. And hes older and doesnt get to update his website. He knows im coming to get ali.

[ybiaw]

I don’t remember what the reasons are and I really don’t feel like reading back - why aren’t we just hiring a professional hauler? It’s not that expensive to go from OH to FL, especially with winter seasons starting up there could be a couple spots on a trailer somewhere.

shrug

Trailering a horse isn’t rocket science. You take some hay you take some water, you take a couple extra lead ropes, throw shipping boots on the thing and put it on the trailer. I don’t think I’ve ever had a “horse first aid kid” on a horse trailer. Then again, I usually have my tack trunk on the trailer and that has pretty much anything I could ever want or need in it.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=2DogsFarm;8938896]
Nootka - please change your sig to include the Poopyhead Credo

She is getting the horse regardless.

-Regardless of her admittedly Novice level of experience & questionable ever-widening circle of assistants* that morphs as she embroiders the tale.
*first just a friend with a place to keep the horse, then trainers eager to take on the potential trainwreck, a willing farrier as well & vet TBD

-Regardless of how many experienced horse trainers/breeders on here have opined it might not be a good or safe match.

-Regardless that although money is tight she is now looking into purchasing a trailer.

-Regardless… etcetera, ad nauseum.

Well past time for popcorn & boxed wine.[/QUOTE]

I do a lot of trading and have been looking to trade for a horse trailer. Ive been very successful with trading. I honestly dont know why you feel the need to stalk and troll.

[JustTheTicket]

I really think this is a kid who googled pictures of pretty horses, then decided to tell us all a tale, and is basically telling us exactly what that website said. Nothing about what she’s written here has convinced me that she’s a grown, educated woman with a husband and children. I’m sorry. Yes, the horses are very pretty. No, you shouldn’t get them.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=ybiaw;8938902]
I don’t remember what the reasons are and I really don’t feel like reading back - why aren’t we just hiring a professional hauler? It’s not that expensive to go from OH to FL, especially with winter seasons starting up there could be a couple spots on a trailer somewhere.

shrug

Trailering a horse isn’t rocket science. You take some hay you take some water, you take a couple extra lead ropes, throw shipping boots on the things and put it on the trailer. I don’t think I’ve ever had a “horse first aid kid” on a horse trailer. Then again, I usually have my tack trunk on the trailer and that has pretty much anything I could ever want or need in it.[/QUOTE]

It was around $1000 for him to be shipped down. As for horse first aid kit incase he were to somehow get sick or injured id like to have something than nothing. And since im going to pick him up i wont really have too much on hand until i get him home.

[Sarahfay94]

[QUOTE=JustTheTicket;8938906]
I really think this is a kid who googled pictures of pretty horses, then decided to tell us all a tale, and is basically telling us exactly what that website said. Nothing about what she’s written here has convinced me that she’s a grown, educated woman with a husband and children. I’m sorry. Yes, the horses are very pretty. No, you shouldn’t get them.[/QUOTE]

Believe what you will. I am very much so married with 2 kids. 4 dogs, 2 cats, a ferret, and 4 fish. Ive been marries since june 29th 2013. If you really must know. And raymond hill is my great uncle on my mothers side. I speak with him pretty much on a daily basis. I am very close with him. I dont know why someone would come on here and make this up?