I really like this idea. It’s great for the folks who can’t afford recognized shows and pros who want to get the kinks out of young horses in a cheaper venue than a recognized show.
They are looking for feedback and you can email them at kwright@usdf.org
One of my suggestions will be to hold the L program grad accountable to a standard. Currently, they aren’t being held accountable for breaking rules, bad behavior, etc. Any complaints are put on file but not addressed.
Where is the idea? Your title tells us little.
To me the biggest benefit of schooling shows is the lack of money grubbing USDF and USEF fingers in the pot, so they’re actually affordable. I want them to stay the hell away.
Yeah…the minute USDF/USEF gets involved …fees and fees and more fees.
Is the proposal written somewhere?
Long time ago, there were League shows, did not become popular.
my local GMO sponsors schooling shows and gives year end awards. LIke mentioned I suspect that getting the USDF involved will result in fee skimming.
I think if riders want to national rank, then they can just as easily look at their scores and see where they slot in. Are people really that driven to want to see how they stack up?
Many years ago when our regional championships started to get pushed out to a wider array of venues on every 3 year rotation, many were reluctant to travel so far so late in the season. Local show manages put together a “small” championship show for those who did not wish to travel so far to regionals.
It was fun and competitive ( and quite well attended) with nice neck ribbons for placing. I think it was about the funnest show I ever went to.
I think if GMOs want to get together and form a “state chamionship” schooling show series scheme they can do it without the aid of USDF.
My horse days are over and I am currently competing in archery. There is a winter tour put together by several people which is touring different clubs. It is leading up to the big international event in Vegas. It allows folks to practice the competition format, or simply have fun and meet up with friends for friendly competition and season end championship. We dont need our national federation (s) to oversee it
What I like about it is that it is totally voluntary - if the competitor wants to participate, they can. Hopefully the proposal will be changed to put all the financial and paperwork responsibility on the competitor who wants to participate.
As it stands right now, the proposal calls for a $25 fee per show from the show organizer to “recognize” the show (for lack of a better term) and results to be sent to USDF who will calculate awards. There was strong resistance to this by the Regions and some on the GMO Council, and I know Region 3 meeting members suggested the cost be borne solely by the competitor who wants to participate in the program - paying fees to participate and sending in scores like the Arabian Horse club and others do. THis ensures that competitors who do not want to participate for whatever reason are not forced to pay - because you know organizers will have to pass that $25 fee per show along.
Ask your GMO officials for more info. It is an active topic on the GMO Officials FB page. I am uncomfortable sharing it here without asking first…
But here are some Details:
L grad or higher for judge
Sufficient arena
Rider has GM membership at minimum
Owner has minimum non-member number
Horse has minimum USDF HID number (I believe these are free…)
And then there are nomination fees etc.
Intro: 5 scores/three judges/three competitions
TL-4th Minimum 5 scores/three judges/ three competitions/one from test 3
FEI 3 scores/three competitions/three judges
Up to 10 placings per level per Region. Has noting to do with “national rankings”
The proposal is headed by Lisa Gorretta, incoming USDF President, outgoing VP.
It will be voted on at the BOG next year as part of the budget.
So local schooling shows who almost all already do year end awards for members can now give USDF money to do year end awards? This absolutely just seems like a way for USDF to get a piece of the pie from many people who’ve chosen to abstain from USDF shows and doesn’t seem to benefit anyone but USDF. They are already failing their own current membership, I’m not seeing how this will be any different.
Sigh. Only if the rider wants to participate. The awards are regional, not just the show series. All voluntary. Some folks are ribbon-motivated. You are not. Don’t participate.
I like the idea that if a rider wishes to participate they submit their score sheets to the USDF. the entry fee might be better paid by the mail in competitor. A nominal $5 as a USDF office fee. will net the USDF more than a per show fee. This will cover their added USDF office expense.
sort of how the rider medals are submitted by the rider
As described in lorilu post schooling show secretaries would now be required to wrangle membership card validation for those who wish to participate, submit scores participation fees. I can see them not wanting to manage these extra steps.
keeping the awards on a regional basis is certainly better, in my opinion. I hope the awards are more than a computer generated paper certificate.
Lorilu, I think you misunderstand my objection.
This is a USDF money grab.
They’ve damaged their own membership numbers and participation levels.
They are now attempting to pilfer money from another source, which they will likely also ruin.
Hate this. The judges don’t want to judge certain members, so USDF/USEF have excluded them with too high a qualification score (for FEI) for freestyles. But they still want the money from the people they excluded from recognized showing, so they stick their hands in the local pockets. They need to fix themselves, not screw up more stuff. Even if participation is voluntary, it will raise the costs to put on local schooling shows and hurt everyone.
I am very interested (and sad) to see what they’ve done to recognized showing this year.
The only thing I like about this is a requirement for a sufficient arena. However, what USDF considers “sufficient” isn’t really going to be any different than what our local schooling shows put on.
A lot of schooling shows don’t separate Open from AA when doing the schooling shows, I would think they should when doing year end awards but how would this work for the Open/AA in the case that the show does not have you declare?
Tell me a good reason for USDF for doing this except for grabbing money from the not so wealthy…
If you prefer to show non-rated you are covered by your GMO… they do a great job in organizing shows and end-of year awards.
If you can afford to show rated you are busy to spend your money with qualifying and going to regionals and nationals…
Now they want to give you the feeling of showing rated (of course it’s still not rated) and take your money for it…
If I am interested in having my scores recorded I still need to show rated. So why should I do this.
Because I am ribbon motivated??
I believe you mean Ribbon Ho! LOL
Our local group does a great job of putting on EOY awards. I don’t need or want it to be from a “recognized” organization - if I did, I’d be showing rated.
My suggestion is you send the USDF a link to this thread.
Bad idea. If riders want USDF recognition then show at USDF rated shows. Why turn local schooling shows into what the USDF wants? I’m guessing GMO year end awards are far better then what you will get from the USDF. :no:
It would probably go by the average of your scores, not placings, so it wouldn’t matter. Idk, if it was affordable to nominate and I was already going to the shows anyway and I thought I was probably going to get an award, I’d do it. I’m not ashamed to say I like ribbons.
Terrible idea. USDF needs to stay out of schooling shows. No chance this helps anyone.
I wouldn’t be opposed to USDF providing subsidies to GMO’s each year if they wish to hand out awards for something - recognized, schooling, volunteer of the year, sportsmanship, etc.
By submitting your email, you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. You may also receive promotional emails from The Chronicle of the Horse. You can opt out at any time.
For Customers
Company
Terms of Use
