Cross posted in H/J.
• Anyone acting as a coach, trainer or legal guardians signing entry blanks as coaches or trainers on the behalf of a minor must be a USEF senior active member in good standing.
Guess USEF is making show managers jobs harder and trying to drive away competitors.
People will vote with their wallets. I don’t believe the Working Equitation USAWE requires USEF membership…
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Somebody longeing a horse has to be a member now? (So no grooms?) Or are they talking about the person longeing a vaulting horse during a competition?
Since it involves competitors, and the word “longeurs” comes right after “vaulters”, I’m betting they are talking about the person controlling the vaulting horse.
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It’s good people have to lunge their own horses if that’s the case. Best way to learn about your horse 
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I don’t understand the “show pass”. How does this affect opportunity classes? Or is this just a H/J thing?
It applies to all disciplines.
I don’t think it affects opportunity classes, but I am not sure. Check the rulebook.
I know it will affect the breed shows. I have and show Arabians and it’s not uncommon that someone may choose to utilize a show pass rather than pay USEF a fee since we would have fees for the Arabian Horse Association already and if you don’t need USEF points, then a show pass would be the way people would do it. Check the show pass needed on the entry from and voila, entered in a show for many people that didn’t want to deal with a USEF membership as well or the Safesport training requirements.
Sounds like they want everyone to go through having the show pass done online and not having show management take care of it for them. Just going to make it more difficult on show management.
Opportunity classes and USDF Intro level classes are exempt from memberships AND show pass fees.
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Wait, if this means show management won’t be able to “take care of it for them” I’m confused how this will make show management’s job harder? Seems like having it electronically verified in advance of the show makes it the same task as all the full membership entries.
For some reason I thought after 2 shows you lost money on the non member fees and membership made more sense. I wonder if this was such a small percentage of overall show fees that it made sense to eliminate it?
longeirs are the people controlling vaulting horses
I have zero issue with requiring people to be members. It makes no more work for the show office. Parents signing for their kids need to be responsible for knowing rules and being Safe Sport knowledgeable. If the kids are not attached to a coach show management needs to make sure the entry is rules compliant and responsible. The idea that the membership is a money burden is bologna.
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In my experience with helping people new to showing that want to attend shows with multiple card requirements, it gets confusing. It’s easier to check a box and have management charge those fees and get a show pass fee paid, an at the show breed membership, and so forth. I suppose I am mostly remarking about those events/shows that people still prefer to enter on paper and not electronically.
The electronic systems make it very easy to verify what memberships are needed or to get things ordered/paid online. A paper show entry form…not so much.
So when navigating a show that then has different requirements for a breed membership, USDF, WDAA, USEF…it gets a little messy and it can take a long time for show management to sort out who exactly needs what for which entry. Now instead of checking boxes and having someone have a balance due at the show, we need to get Suzy Q online (and safe sport trained) to order the show pass in advance instead of the show management making everything work out with USEF in the end.
I’ve seen some confusing scenarios involving parents leasing or having a kid taking lessons on a horse and there ended up being a lot of last minute memberships or show passes needing to be purchased in order to make sure that horse can go into the ring.
Hopefully makes more sense. Just my .02$. I hope I’ll be proven wrong though in my local area shows
It does sound like the burden has been shifted to the competitor though, not show management. I do agree, it’s confusing to newbs in the show world and it didn’t get any less confusing with this change, although I didn’t see a safe sport req. for a show pass in the USEF FAQs, but I didn’t spend a lot of time looking beyond that either. However I DID notice that coaches/trainers are no longer eligible to use show passes at all. My first thought was wtf would a trainer be using a pass for? Then my second cynical thought was if you could skip the whole background check/safe sport training/oversight and just pass on that pass cost to your customers, wouldn’t THAT be a nice way to avoid oversight, and let’s be honest, safe sport scrutiny…
The lease things always been a nightmare for newbs/infrequent showers though, they are never recorded and it’s a pain when for people who deal with it regularly.
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I think the point is that, for a junior rider with a horse at home, the parent signed as “trainer”(and thus prima facia responsible for any positive drug findings). It USED to be that such a parent-as-trainer didn’t need to be a USEF member. (The instructor/trainer is not responsible for the horse’s day to day care, and thus can’t/won’t sign as USEF trainer.)
Now the parent-as-trainer has to be a USEF member (not able to use “show pass”), and has to take Safe Sport training.
As I understand it, the one-show-rider who buys a “show pass” doesn’t need to take the Safe Sport training.
https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/6-EZhlB582s/usef-show-pass-faqs
Has anyone determined whether a USEF membership is required for a rider to show in opportunity classes if the rider is also signing as “trainer” for the horse at that show? This FAQ doesn’t make that clear, to me.
But you can only use the free pass once.
Id suggest you send them an email and ask.
Why do people continue to let USEF do all of this stupid crap? AERC kicking USEF to the curb was one of the best moves they’ve ever made
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Remember, some of these potential changes were put forward by “regular” folks, not necessarily the leadership…
Might as well ask:
Why dont people fill out the input forms for potential changes? Why dont people come to the USDF convention where some of this was discussed - and that discussion continued on line, AND it resulted in changes being made…
Why don’t people go to the USEF convention and voice their concerns?
WHy dont the other disciplines complain? Many of the potential changes are supported by some of the affilate disciplines!
WHy don’t pople run for PM delegate (a voting delegate) for their Region?
Why doesnt EVERY GMO make SURE they have a delegate or proxy carrying their vote (you wouldnt believe the trouble we go through trying to get votes to count!)
And all the rest.
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