New York Times article - USEF and Humble

[QUOTE=Limerick;6750229]
I will ask again-is there a valid reason to pack liquid magnesium in your show trunk??[/QUOTE]

Check out this website http://www.nupafeedusa.com/magnesium.htm

Or they just keep it off the showgrounds unless they are using it. Not hard. If someone doesn’t want to be seen injecting a horse, it isn’t hard to do. There are 24 hours in a day, and many of those hours have very few people on the showgrounds.

seriously, go to the Amber Hill Farm facebook page and say what you feel on her wall. i did, i am sarah hochschwender. also look on elizabeth’s personal page. first thing you see are names of people i respect and consider friends in most cases. why are Robin Greenwood, Bill Schaub, Anna Jane White-Mullin, Cynthia Williams, Jimmy Lee, Missy Roads, Ron Danta, and Don Stewart acting as de facto endorsers of this lunatic ? WHY not just quietly delete your name from her list? this crazy woman has already proven that she relies heavily on facebook and other internet connections to gain clients. she will point to her position vby showing these REAL BNT names as proof of her legitimacy. this is not about that poor child and being NICE to her. we have a cancer in this business, and it is time to excise it.

Who is Scott Stewart? His name is mentioned on here repeatedly, usually with nothing other than ‘Scott Stewart’ in the post.

So please explain, for those of us who don’t speak the shorthand of the h/j scene.

… and here you have it folks. if you even POST to Amber Hill’s wall you get the attention of tammy tucker, attorney to the lunatic. what a piece of work she must be… " Ms. Hochschwender,
Thank you for contacting my client, Elizabeth Mandarino. I understand that you post on the Chronicle Forums as “fair judy.” In June of this year, you posted that Kristen Williams, the woman who filed the protest regarding Humble, had “counsel for the protest.” You also have posted other comments that indicate a working knowledge of facts that are currently being litigated in a case pending in New Jersey. I would like to schedule a time to interview you by telephone regarding these facts. Depending on our discussion, I will be able to determine if we will ultimately need to issue a subpoena for your testimony.
Please let me know a convenient day and time after January 1 to talk.
Thank you, Tammy Tucker
tamara.tucker@nelsontucker.com, 434-979-0049"

Scott Stewart is one of the top hunter riders in the country. Sadly, he was caught twice this year for drug infractions and had some time off. I know he was set down for either June or July but don’t know what other time he was made to take off away from USEF sanctioned shows,

i have already retained counsel. if every single person here posts on Amber Hill, an OPEN page will she sue the entire world?

[QUOTE=JER;6750313]
Who is Scott Stewart? His name is mentioned on here repeatedly, usually with nothing other than ‘Scott Stewart’ in the post.

So please explain, for those of us who don’t speak the shorthand of the h/j scene.[/QUOTE]

If you keep up with the comings and goings in hunter land, you definitely know who Scott Stewart is.

[QUOTE=Limerick;6750229]
I will ask again-is there a valid reason to pack liquid magnesium in your show trunk??[/QUOTE]

There’s not even a valid reason for a “trainer” to possess the injectable forms of magnesium off the show grounds.

In all my years in horses, it wasn’t until it became the drug du jour that I ever saw the stuff.

[QUOTE=PonyPenny;6750334]
If you keep up with the comings and goings in hunter land, you definitely know who Scott Stewart is.[/QUOTE]

Well, I don’t. :slight_smile: That’s why I was asking.

I assume the general consensus is that his drug violations are a symptom of a chronic condition?

[QUOTE=JER;6750313]
Who is Scott Stewart? His name is mentioned on here repeatedly, usually with nothing other than ‘Scott Stewart’ in the post.

So please explain, for those of us who don’t speak the shorthand of the h/j scene.[/QUOTE]

Scott is one of the most successful hunter riders and trainers in the country. He was suspended for a month within the past year for a medication violation, I believe involving using bute and other NSAIDS in amounts over the allowed limits. He’s also apparently on the cover of this month’s In Stride (USHJA) magazine, which is leaving bad taste in people’s mouth given the recent infractions.

[QUOTE=fair judy;6750290]
seriously, go to the Amber Hill Farm facebook page and say what you feel on her wall. i did, i am sarah hochschwender. also look on elizabeth’s personal page. first thing you see are names of people i respect and consider friends in most cases. why are Robin Greenwood, Bill Schaub, Anna Jane White-Mullin, Cynthia Williams, Jimmy Lee, Missy Roads, Ron Danta, and Don Stewart acting as de facto endorsers of this lunatic ? WHY not just quietly delete your name from her list? this crazy woman has already proven that she relies heavily on facebook and other internet connections to gain clients. she will point to her position vby showing these REAL BNT names as proof of her legitimacy. this is not about that poor child and being NICE to her. we have a cancer in this business, and it is time to excise it.[/QUOTE]

I am so honored to be considered a real BNT! But you could have at least spelled my name correctly.

I am not trying to make light of what is a very real problem, however I think EM is a red herring.

As far as unfriending her, I just havent gotten around to it, and frankly, I have never even met the lady, as I suspect many of the BNT’s on her SOCIAL MEDIA page also have not.

[QUOTE=PonyPenny;6750334]
If you keep up with the comings and goings in hunter land, you definitely know who Scott Stewart is.[/QUOTE]

No need to be snotty to JER, he’s an eventer.

[QUOTE=gumshoe;6750092]
Were these shows where you stabled 5 or 6 days at a time? Or shows that were multiple weeks and the horses lived on the show grounds for 3 weeks without leaving?[/QUOTE]

Most shows I’ve done are weekend deals but I’ve also done ones of consecutive weeks where they were stabled for 10 nights or so on the grounds and also trips for endurance rides (including 100s and multi-days) that lasted several weeks, with the horses tied to the trailer the whole time. It didnt make me want to start injecting anything. In my world, colic is a rare experience and if it does occur, I’d call the vet if it doesnt resolve itself quickly. Or wonder whats wrong with my management that I have so many colics and problems that need the constant medication.

[QUOTE=fair judy;6750322]
… and here you have it folks. if you even POST to Amber Hill’s wall you get the attention of tammy tucker, attorney to the lunatic. what a piece of work she must be… " Ms. Hochschwender,
Thank you for contacting my client, Elizabeth Mandarino. I understand that you post on the Chronicle Forums as “fair judy.” In June of this year, you posted that Kristen Williams, the woman who filed the protest regarding Humble, had “counsel for the protest.” You also have posted other comments that indicate a working knowledge of facts that are currently being litigated in a case pending in New Jersey. I would like to schedule a time to interview you by telephone regarding these facts. Depending on our discussion, I will be able to determine if we will ultimately need to issue a subpoena for your testimony.
Please let me know a convenient day and time after January 1 to talk.
Thank you, Tammy Tucker
tamara.tucker@nelsontucker.com, 434-979-0049"[/QUOTE]

That is simply over the top ridiculous! What a world we live in!

[QUOTE=Hattie;6748489]

I don’t know if Mrs. Williams would agree…she lost her money to file a protest and now is becoming embroiled in a lawsuit.[/QUOTE]

On that point - is anyone aware of a legal defense fund or similar for Mrs. Williams? I’d happily contribute.

So Scott Stewart does only hunters? That would mean he never rides under FEI rules, and has no incentive to even experiment with a no-drugs regimen.

[QUOTE=fair judy;6750322]
… and here you have it folks. if you even POST to Amber Hill’s wall you get the attention of tammy tucker, attorney to the lunatic. what a piece of work she must be… " Ms. Hochschwender,
Thank you for contacting my client, Elizabeth Mandarino. I understand that you post on the Chronicle Forums as “fair judy.” In June of this year, you posted that Kristen Williams, the woman who filed the protest regarding Humble, had “counsel for the protest.” You also have posted other comments that indicate a working knowledge of facts that are currently being litigated in a case pending in New Jersey. I would like to schedule a time to interview you by telephone regarding these facts. Depending on our discussion, I will be able to determine if we will ultimately need to issue a subpoena for your testimony.
Please let me know a convenient day and time after January 1 to talk.
Thank you, Tammy Tucker
tamara.tucker@nelsontucker.com, 434-979-0049"[/QUOTE]

Every see a cartoon with the little birds flying about going “cukoo cukoo”?

What does EM think she is going to end up with after all this? More clients who will flock to her farm? She’s doing nothing but continuing to damage her reputation even further.