yeah genetic bottleneck
I’ve read that a clone’s markings will be the same, in the sense that if the hind legs of the original had white, the hind legs of the clone will have white. But the actual formation and how cells move and divide in the womb will be based on the individual, which means the extent/shape of the white will be different.
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If I had ****-you money I would DEFINITELY clone my horse.
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If you look at the picture of Switch, he has no white on his hinds. Nintendo does.
The Capot’s hadn’t planned on campaigning Gemini, rather keeping that bloodline going. His offspring are all 9 or younger, and are showing good qualities. He’s standing in Europe.
https://www.selectbreeders.com/articles/gemini-the-clone-of-gem-twist-where-is-he-now
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I knew I had read something on COTH about how white markings are formed, so I looked it up. Here is is if anyone is interested! I am certainly no genetics/breeding expert, but based on this thread I would think that clones could have different markings since they are based on how color pigment travels in the forming of the embryo.
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Here’s an interesting possibility that may be part of an answer to my question about what traits Jorst wanted to reproduce. This is from the Vanity Fair article (above):
“In horses, as in other species, certain experiences and conditions can cause changes to the way the DNA works in their cells. Though it has never been proved scientifically, Gutiérrez, Meeker, and Mutto suspect that these epigenetic changes, as they’re called, can result in things as complex as a horse’s learned behaviors being stored not just in the horse’s brain but encoded in every cell in the body. When the adult horse is cloned, they believe, these “cellular memories” are copied right along with the DNA. Mariano Aguerre, ranked among the top polo players in the world, has observed something along these lines with the clone of his champion gelding Califa. The original Califa has an intense fear of garden hoses; its clone is equally terrified of them.”
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The clones of the famous AQHA cutting horse Smart Little Lena.
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This is some fascinating stuff!
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All of his traits absent the effects of forced rollker.
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She is looking for an exact replica of Nintendo.
The dressage stallion Jazz was also cloned several times years ago.
Wasn’t Poetin cloned some years ago, as well?
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60 minutes did a story on the cloned polo pony. She was a mare named Cuerta(sp). It’s a really good story you could probably find in their archives. He names all the clones Cuerta with a number
Personally I’m not into the cloning thing
I saw a 39 vs 40 goal polo game in Buenos Aires a few years ago. On one of the teams, all the players were siblings or cousins and almost all that team’s polo ponies were clones!
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Their own polo dynasty!
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I am surprised whoever is running Glock these days hasn’t tried to get Totilas clones, esp. since they have millions of $$$ to play with. Although they would no doubt have had to get the cells from Schockemoehle - which makes me wonder if PS had any of Toto’s cells harvested and stored before he passed.
I also am not sure how the various registries feel about clones. At one point, most or all of the major European WB registries forbade them, but I don’t know if that has changed. And if they can’t be registered, that may affect the ability to compete them in certain categories - although that may have also changed in recent years.
Well the players in the polo pony cloning production are now all suing each other about who owns the rights to the genetic material. Maybe Glock doesn’t want to get involved with that. There are a lot of approved sons of Totilas out there and the philosophy is breeding forward so maybe it is not financially attractive.
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She won’t find it.
Oof. That’s a real can of worms.
Did anyone realized there are 3 clones of Nintendo?
