My husband thinks the new Nissans are great and is really rooting for a Nissan Titan. Can i really safely two two horses in my two horse gooseneck Hawk trailer with a Titan?
I dearly love my 2000 7.3 L Ford Truck but it is 16 years old.
It looks like they tow around 9,000. A quick search shows that Rvers seem to like the Titan and people towing bumper pulls. If it matches your needs and your trailer is another matter. I didn’t see anyone towing a gooseneck. It will have less towing power than your current truck.
Nissans are great trucks, but they are insufficient for any kind of horse hauling. The tail would be wagging the dog, so to speak. You would be unable to stop quickly, haul up any sort of incline, or do any sort of emergency manuevering.
For a GN, you must have a 3/4 ton truck.
Sorry, I know that isn’t what you want to hear.
Feel free to send the 7.3 to me…
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Nissans are great trucks, but they are insufficient for any kind of horse hauling. The tail would be wagging the dog, so to speak. You would be unable to stop quickly, haul up any sort of incline, or do any sort of emergency manuevering.
For a GN, you must have a 3/4 ton truck.
Sorry, I know that isn’t what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]
This is not true at all, there are many 1/2 ton trucks more than capable of towing a gooseneck. To blanket state that there isn’t a single one fails to acknowledge that many newer 1/2 ton trucks tow more trailer better than their older 3/4 ton siblings. If your particular 1/2 ton is capable of towing your particular gooseneck is a different matter.
Not all gooseneck’s require a 3/4 ton or larger trailer. There are lots of goosenecks that CAN safely be towed with a half-ton, but I wouldn’t ever want to tow with a Nissan.
I have not looked at any specs, but I just don’t view Nissan’s as being built to handle any type of load - whether it is payload or towing.
Maximum towing capacity for a 2017 Nissan Titan XD can be as much as 12,300 pounds, depending on configuration, so I would think it could handle your trailer. The new diesel Titan XD is a “5/8 ton” and is supposed to be a pretty good tow vehicle.
(I’m planning on replacing my 2003 F-150 in the next year or two and I’m already spending way too much time looking at truck literature. 
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Not sure why anyone would pay that much money for the Titan XD when you could just buy a new Ram with the larger cummins that gets almost the same mileage with much more power. My 2016 Cummins regularly gets 22mpg empty and pulls very well heavy.
People tend to forget that 1/2-tons are not built on the same frame as a 3/4-ton. I’d never pull a GN with a 1/2-ton…never. The frame isn’t designed for it while a 3/4-ton is. I’ve pulled the same BP trailer with my 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton and there is no comparison. With the 1/2-ton I can feel the trailer…with the 3/4-ton I’d have to keep checking to see if the trailer was still there because I never felt it. Both trucks had the exact same engine and only had about a 300 lb tow capacity difference.
I not only care that the numbers work - I want to know that the frame can handle it too.
Why do you think they build 3/4-tons??
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The new diesel Titan XD is a “5/8 ton” )[/QUOTE]
around here there used to be a gap in the vehicle registration fees and tagging that the 5/8 ton fell through allowing it to be registered at a much cheaper rate… even though it was rated by the manufacturer at nearly the same as their 3/4 ton versions it was viewed by the state on the same level as a passenger car
People tend to forget that 1/2-tons are not built on the same frame as a 3/4-ton. I’d never pull a GN with a 1/2-ton…never. The frame isn’t designed for it while a 3/4-ton is. I’ve pulled the same BP trailer with my 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton and there is no comparison. With the 1/2-ton I can feel the trailer…with the 3/4-ton I’d have to keep checking to see if the trailer was still there because I never felt it. Both trucks had the exact same engine and only had about a 300 lb tow capacity difference.
I not only care that the numbers work - I want to know that the frame can handle it too.
Why do you think they build 3/4-tons??
Exactly. It amazes me how little people know about safe hauling.
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around here there used to be a gap in the vehicle registration fees and tagging that the 5/8 ton fell through allowing it to be registered at a much cheaper rate… even though it was rated by the manufacturer at nearly the same as their 3/4 ton versions it was viewed by the state on the same level as a passenger car[/QUOTE]
Yes. I owned one of those back in the 80s. I think there was also something about the cut-off for mandatory fuel economy levels - the little bit of extra weight put it just over the cut-off for the more stringent “passenger vehicle” fuel economy requirement.
It was a bit of a lemon. There was some computer control module (a tiny black box) that kept burning out and leaving me stranded in the middle of nowhere south Texas and no one could ever figure out why. I didn’t keep it long. But I digress…
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Exactly. It amazes me how little people know about safe hauling.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it does amaze me that so many people know so little about hauling that they don’t know about all the really great 1/2 ton truck options out there for towing matching gooseneck trailers.
There is an ENORMOUS range of 1/2 ton trucks and gooseneck trailers out there.
As an example, the Toyota Tundra is an excellent half ton truck option for towing and has multiple positive reviews from experienced drivers, towers, and horse people doing just that.
If the Nissan Titan is comparable is a different question.
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Not sure why anyone would pay that much money for the Titan XD when you could just buy a new Ram with the larger cummins that gets almost the same mileage with much more power. My 2016 Cummins regularly gets 22mpg empty and pulls very well heavy.[/QUOTE]
because 5 years down the road the Nissan will still be towing while the Dodge will have already had a hailstorm of repairs done to it… ask me how I know…
There is no Dodge truck anymore… …but it’s true that some folks have not had the best of luck, particularly with older ones that do bear the Dodge name.
Honestly, the specs for the Nissan Titan do not look bad at all. Combine that with the gas mileage, the reliability/durability of the brand… and I can see why someone would want one.
SO wants one something fierce after watching the Nissan Patrol haul that Boeing… In a few years we will be looking at a truck and he wants the Nissan Titan or the Toyota Tundra… You couldn’t pay me to take a Dodge - it’s all my friends haul with and they’ve had nothing but problems. My family has a 95 Chevy that I never want to see retired, but it is long in the tooth…
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Not sure why anyone would pay that much money for the Titan XD when you could just buy a new Ram with the larger cummins that gets almost the same mileage with much more power. My 2016 Cummins regularly gets 22mpg empty and pulls very well heavy.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps they don’t care to have the transmission fail when they’re in the middle of nowhere; more than once.
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Perhaps they don’t care to have the transmission fail when they’re in the middle of nowhere; more than once.[/QUOTE]
I never had a transmission issue with my 06 Dodge. 220k miles before I sold it. I think the worst was a slave cylinder going out on it which was an easy fix.
I have two other friends with identical Dodges, one was 2 years older than mine and hers, and we were all good with no tranny issues. All three were manuals though. They still have thiers and I know that they are at 200k plus miles. Id buy another manual dodge in a heartbeat. They love their trucks as well.
Transmission issues in a Dodge truck may not be what they seem…
My 2001 Dodge Ram 1/2 ton is one I tow my g/n trailer with. It is rated for 7500 lbs. and has had a LOT of heavy use - max weight. My g/n is about 4000 lbs, and I haul 3 horses + gear.
I did purchase an aftermarket warranty. When the truck was about 4 years old, I began to have a transmission problem. I limped it to my Dodge dealer. They said the trans was shot.
I told them I had an aftermarket warranty that would be sending them a newtrans. When they told me I would be paying a $1300 “uncrating fee”, I was furious. I made them put it back to drivable. They charged me for the eval.
I then limped my truck a few miles down the road to Aamco. Aamco said the transmission was great. It just needed a $400 part - I only had to pay a $100 deductible.
Dodge dealer almost took my great transmission with their lies :mad:
Aamco said, “Isn’t that truck wonderful? Look out the back - our truck for the shop is the same one”
Eleven + years later, and a LOT more hauling miles later, my original trans rocks!
I am SO glad I got that aftermarket warranty!! I made the Dodge dealer refund my “fee”.
That said, the “less” of a driver you are, the “more” truck you need. :winkgrin:
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Not sure why anyone would pay that much money for the Titan XD when you could just buy a new Ram with the larger cummins that gets almost the same mileage with much more power. My 2016 Cummins regularly gets 22mpg empty and pulls very well heavy.[/QUOTE]
Because people might want to own a truck that lasts which would take that Dodge right off the list.
And getting parts for the darn Dodge is like pulling teeth. If you dare to limp it along until it is 10 years old you are SOL for finding even major parts for the darn things.
Clearly your experience may be different, this is just my personal experience.
