Watching the Nations Cup in Hickstead on FEItv.org… just watched a horse jump around and he had a pretty big nosebleed upon finishing. (of course I didn’t write down the horse or rider name, that would be too convenient 
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How does that work with FEI rules? Will the horse be disqualified since he has blood on him after his round?
I have no idea, although it has been done in dressage. But since you are watching, why not post results for the rest of us? 
I am on the Hickstead website but it just shows the start order, not results.
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I have no idea, although it has been done in dressage. But since you are watching, why not post results for the rest of us? I am on the Hickstead website but it just shows the start order, not results.[/QUOTE]
Thank you!
I don’t mean to derail the thread, but is there a way to watch FEItv without paying the subscription fee? I’d love to follow along!
USA USA USA!!!
An equine nosebleed is most likely to be considered differently from blood on the mouth, or the sides from spurs. Nosebleeds are frequently caused by EIPH (exercise induced pulmonary hemorrhage), and are quite common in racing TBs.
Not that there cannot be other causes. The horse’s health history would need examining for that.
Well done USA!!
Sorry I was distracted by the exciting ending of today’s competition! Yay Beezie!
merrygoround - that’s good info to know!
Although I’m more interested about the FEI ruling, and if the “natural” causation of the bleed would be allowed or still result in disqualification for the horse/rider combo.
I don’t think it mattered per-se in this competition from a result standpoint, but they also didn’t announce if anything happened ruling wise with the nosebleed today…
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An equine nosebleed is most likely to be considered differently from blood on the mouth, or the sides from spurs. Nosebleeds are frequently caused by EIPH (exercise induced pulmonary hemorrhage), and are quite common in racing TBs.
Not that there cannot be other causes. The horse’s health history would need examining for that.[/QUOTE]
Just about all horses regardless of breed will show some level of EIPH after heavy exercise if scoped soon after.
“bleeding from the nose” is not all that common in Racehorses regardless of what is written. At least not at the tracks I spend time at. Nor the horses I have worked with and trained. And I have work with a lot of them. It is the exception not the norm IMO and experience.
A couple of years ago we had a mare for a client who had been “stall bound” for a couple of weeks due to issues with her foal. The first day she was turned out in a small paddock she ran around like they will do. And she bleed through her nose. Never had one do that before.
Not very fair to cast such a large blanket IMO.
The US also won the Nations Cup in Gijon today.
http://eventcontent.hippoonline.de/932/docs/R_09_final.pdf
FEI Rules can be looked up online.
2014 Jumping Rules
Article 242 Disqualifications
3. Mandatory Disqualification
3.1 Horses bleeding on the flank(s), in the mouth or nose or marks indicating excessive use of spurs or of the whip anywhere on the Horse (in minor cases of blood in the mouth, such as where a Horse appears to have bitten its tongue or lip, Officials may authorize the rinsing or wiping of the mouth and allow the Athlete to continue; any further evidence of blood in the mouth will result in Disqualification.)
I had to look at this. I wasn’t sure if we were talking the rider or the horse! At least it was only one and not both.
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“bleeding from the nose” is not all that common in Racehorses regardless of what is written. [/QUOTE]
Yeah… because they’re all on Lasix
Horse could have whacked it’s nose on something too, BTDT, embarrassing. Imagine this would have been referred to a steward to determine cause and if there was a violation involved. Not like nobody noticed.
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Yeah… because they’re all on Lasix[/QUOTE]
Maybe yours are but the ones I run aren’t. And they are almost always scoped after every race.
Considering we are the only country in the world that allows Lasix which means the vast majority are not. Saying that,
“(exercise induced pulmonary hemorrhage), and are quite common in racing Tbs”.
Is not exactly fair and balanced nor based on facts.
I won’t get into the diatribe it’s been going on for years.
To each their own
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