Nu Schule bits?

[Draftmare]

@csaper58

@Draftmare Measure your current crank strap length and width, then drop by the Goodwill store and look thru the belts. I found a great quality XL black belt there. Only $3.00

I had the buckle on my strap swapped for the icky one on the belt, it works and looks great.

I agree the nose band needs to be raised. Be careful raising the bit to high in her mouth, the Verbindend is a unique shape bit and you don’t want it contacting her cheek teeth. I also think the thinner bit would be better.

Some horses for what ever reason just hate a bit pressing on their tongue. Those horses sometimes go better in a Worcester nose band. Saddly I don’t believe Worcester style nose bands are dressage legal.

http://www.harnessstuff.co.uk/zilco-…er-26186-p.asp is one example.

I did try a harness racing bridle with the overcheck on it attached to the crown, and it didn’t help. I also tried the bit clips on my Micklem bridle, and they didn’t really help either. Neither are dressage legal.

No, I don’t think I really want to go much higher than I have it now. I am now at a solid two wrinkles, and she is almost starting to “smile.” She still has her tongue over it. We had an okay jump school, but another very “meh” flat school over the weekend. She continues to be hard to pick back up after I give her a loose rein walk break, and wants to root pretty bad.

I was able to punch a hole almost at the very end of my crank strap and take the noseband up two holes. https://imgur.com/a/hT7Cr

[joiedevie99]

She has such a lovely face!!

Anyway… noseband looks so much better now. I’d probably still lift the bit if it isn’t at risk of interfering with her molars.
Have you tried adding a tongue depressor to her bit for a while? It’s a cheap idea, and it has a shot.

[alibi_18]

The noseband is at the better place now.

Too bad you don’t want to raise the bit as well, it’s obvious from the way it hangs that it is still too low. Imagine if you had to fit a weymouth in there as well how low it would be. Some horses have more « lips » than others, the wrinkles rule just don’t apply. A bit that hangs lower in the mouth is not nicer for the horse as you have to « pull » even more to get the desirable effect and the horse cannot go to the bit and take contact with the rider’s hand because it lies at the wrong place. The first sign that the bit is too low is the tongue can go over.

What do you have to lose trying it a few times?

Don’t worry, I won’t bother you no more with that! Good luck with this.

[csaper58]

@Draftmare

I did try a harness racing bridle with the overcheck on it attached to the crown, and it didn’t help. I also tried the bit clips on my Micklem bridle, and they didn’t really help either. Neither are dressage legal.

No, I don’t think I really want to go much higher than I have it now. I am now at a solid two wrinkles, and she is almost starting to “smile.” She still has her tongue over it. We had an okay jump school, but another very “meh” flat school over the weekend. She continues to be hard to pick back up after I give her a loose rein walk break, and wants to root pretty bad.

I was able to punch a hole almost at the very end of my crank strap and take the noseband up two holes. https://imgur.com/a/hT7Cr

If the bit is putting constant pressure on her mouth because the cheek pieces have been shortened, how can she find her reward… AKA the release?

Bridle does look much better, much more complimentary on her pretty face.

[alibi_18]

@csaper58

If the bit is putting constant pressure on her mouth because the cheek pieces have been shortened, how can she find her reward… AKA the release?

The bit could put constant pressure in the mouth if the bit wasn’t at the right place…if it too high (which is not the case here) at the corners of the lips or if too low, on the tongue and bars.

[csaper58]

@alibi_18

The bit could put constant pressure in the mouth if the bit wasn’t at the right place…if it too high (which is not the case here) at the corners of the lips or if too low, on the tongue and bars.

Given the vastly different proportions of horse’s mouths, I think the OP’s horse will be the one to decide if the bit is comfortably positioned for her.

[alibi_18]

@csaper58

Given the vastly different proportions of horse’s mouths, I think the OP’s horse will be the one to decide if the bit is comfortably positioned for her.

Given that the OP’s mare still put her tongue over the bit at this height, I think she’s trying to say something.

[Draftmare]

I am agreeing with @csaper58 on this. If I put it higher I might get it over her tongue, but I think at that point it would be putting too much pull on her lips.

Now that I have the bridle situated right, I think I am going to try my rubber snaffle again and see what happens.

[sdlbredfan]

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