NYT article on PETA undercover in Asmussen's barn

[QUOTE=Angelico;7493304]
Exactly, you have “friends”, meanwhile he kept my family fed. Maggi still has enough respect for him to stand up for him against the accusations by the uneducated. Everybody loves to hate a winner. Steve wins because he does things right. I’d advise you to go to his barn or talk to one of his current employees, but you prefer the statements of those who have never set foot in his shedrow.[/QUOTE]

You are wrong there Angelico, they have stepped foot in his shedrow. Also, this is one of Barry Irwins comments from the Paulick Report, but I’ll guess you’ll deem him as not knowing either.

“Truth be told, I’ve had my experiences with this crew and it was not satisfactory.”
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Here are some of his rulings…I’m sure these were all just “mistakes” in your world, but this is what has had people talking about him for years. Plus the fact that he does indeed run sore/over medicated horses, that has been a well known fact for years.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/rci-rulings-asmussen-nips-dutrow-74-to-72/

What’s at stake here is that the national reputation of Thoroughbred racing and breeding takes another big hit . All this quibbling back and forth amongst ourselves is fine, if you don’t care where we’ll be as an industry 15-20 years down the road.

We have a huge public perception issue as long as PETA can get this kind of stuff on tape and out to the general public, who knows nothing about horses of any kind and is getting the impression that racehorses are drugged, races are fixed, and horses are as disposable as old cars once they are done racing.

If this isn’t a wake-up call to everyone in the industry, racing will continue to decline until it truly is only the sport of whatever kings and other wealthy folk can continue racing and breeding as a hobby.

For those that might not be familiar with how scratches work, I think some of those “not have foal papers in file” and the like fines are race shopping. You enter a horse at two different tracks a couple of days apart. When the overnights come out you see that the second race came up easier but you can’t run in both. If you scratch the first one, you get days and can’t run in either. If you don’t have your foal papers in the file or show up late or whatever, you pay a $200 fine and go run in the easier race.

Getting the impression? It happens, more than we like to acknowledge. You can look at the link I posted, why were his fines never upped or more suspensions given? This is a HUGE part of our problem, slaps on the wrist from officials and trainers that keep on cheating.

Agree Laurie, but many are drug overages…so it’s either cheating, or gross neglect in running his outfit.

[QUOTE=Angelico;7493304]
Maggi still has enough respect for him to stand up for him against the accusations by the uneducated.[/QUOTE]

Actually, she didn’t stand up for Asmussen :wink: She made ambiguous statements like these:

I’m not denying there aren’t abuses by people in racing. I think there are abuses of a far more egregious nature going on that we don’t know about. But there are also those types of abuses going on in front of the board of doctors, the board of lawyers, the board of pharmaceuticals. So are all doctors or lawyers bad? And I’m not calling Steve or Scott bad. I’m just saying they did a distorted video that’s bad for the industry. Duh, it’s bad for the industry. So what do we do? That’s the question.

Zayat just pulled all his horses according to the DRF twitter.

I signed. http://www.tbracingleague.com/

Alex Brown has been responsible for more dead horses than has Asmussen, and knowingly covered up federal fraud cases on his website. I never could understand how anyone that looks so clumsy on a horse could ever be put on anything that anyone valued. That being said, as much as I know Asmussen is a assembly line creep, and know people at Charles Town who were personal friends of his, after his “rise to fame”, he couldn’t be bothered to speak to them if they were in the same room, I have no trust in anything that PETA does. Their criminal matters, their killing of pet animals as a matter of protocol, their lack of anything resembling support for actual rescue, forget it, they should be the ones having someone shove a camera up their butts. Racing has work it needs to do, I do support a national commission but not something precipitated by a bunch of gangsters masquerading as ARAs. And Zayat, look up his loan fraud schemes in the past, it was just crook working with crook in that relationship and one rat decided to leave the sinking ship.

Look at this figure, Zayat made bets of 8.3 million dollars and was involved heavily in the Penn National side of things. Now who is PETA investigating?

http://www.northjersey.com/news/nj-state-news/nj-governor-s-office/teaneck-bettor-ran-up-286-000-debt-lawsuit-targets-online-horse-wagering-1.718935

I like this comment of one of the better informed readers.

Mike Burns · Top Commenter · University of life and hard knocks

Why would a taxpayer supported public agency illegally extend credit to a bettor. "Officials thought he was deserving of special consideration. " Why ? Why would ZAYAT get special consideration for bouncing checks and not be charged with fraud ? Who is getting paid off here? Where is the N.J. Atty/General’s office in all of this ? This is a classic example of a compulsive gambler running afoul of the law. How many homes and family’s have been wrecked by gambling in New Jersey and now Fatso Christie wants to expand it ?

[QUOTE=Laurierace;7493960]
I signed. http://www.tbracingleague.com/[/QUOTE]
As did I.
Not a back-sider/bettor, but have been seriously following TB races since 1967.
Got my first horse - a 9MO, in 1981.
I still love to look up bloodlines. So many good, sturdy ones are dropping off the map!
It does seem (to me) that the influx of these QH/salemen/coaches/trainers seem to be concurrent with the downfall of racing in this country.
Here I thought Moody Jolley couldn’t be more ‘classless.’
Then come the “Spectacular Bid” peeps (OOPS! There’s an Asmussen yet again!)
I have been DISGUSTED ever since.

BTW ~ Did ANYONE else notice Angle Cordero Jr. was at that “dinner party?”

I signed too, greatly respect Rick Porter. Nice man, great owner for the sport.

Good article in The Atlantic on this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/the-ugly-truth-about-horse-racing/284594/

http://www.drf.com/news/owner-zayat-transferring-horses-asmussen-stable

Owner Zayat transferring horses from Asmussen stable

Owner Ahmed Zayat said Monday he is parting ways with trainer Steve Asmussen, moving a dozen horses from his barn to three trainers on different circuits.

Zayat announced the decision on Twitter late Monday afternoon and confirmed the names of the trainers to whom those horses will be going in a phone conversation with Daily Racing Form.

Asmussen and his former assistant, Scott Blasi, are the subject of 10 complaints filed by the animal-rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), which, among other things, allege animal abuse by the two horsemen in the form of overuse of legal medications.

Zayat said horses he had with Asmussen at Oaklawn Park will be going to D. Wayne Lukas. Zayat’s horses at Fair Grounds will go to Dale Romans and be moved to Churchill Downs. Finally, Zayat-owned horses at Belmont Park will be given to Michael Wilson. Wilson, a graduate of the Darley Flying Start program, also has worked for horsemen Richard Mandella, Bob Baffert, Doug O’Neill, and Ken McPeek. He has won nine races from 49 starters, including six on the New York Racing Association circuit last year.

Zayat said he made the decision to split with Asmussen because he believes Asmussen was not forthcoming about the physical condition of Nehro, the runner-up in the 2011 Kentucky Derby who died of colic on Kentucky Derby Day 2013.

Details of Nehro’s fragile feet were prominently discussed in a nine-minute video put out by PETA that accompanied its complaints about Asmussen and Blasi to state and federal agencies in Kentucky and New York.

Those complaints have sparked investigations by racing commissions in Kentucky and New York and led to Asmussen firing Blasi on Saturday after an 18-year association.

Zayat said he knew that Nehro had to be stopped on twice due to ankle problems but was never made aware that the horse had problems with his feet. In the video, one of Nehro’s feet is described by an unnamed farrier as “a little bitty nub.”

“News to me, never heard it before, very disturbing,” Zayat said. “Therefore, I was lied to, and if I was lied to, I can’t continue to keep my horses in an environment where I can’t trust the care that’s given.”

Zayat said he checked with three racing managers he had during the time Nehro was in training – Sohby Sonbol, Bradley Weisbord, and his son, Justin Zayat – “and none of them had ever heard about this foot issue regarding Nehro.”

After finishing second in the Kentucky Derby and fourth in the Belmont Stakes in 2011, Nehro underwent ankle surgery. He returned in 2012, winning an allowance race before running sixth in the Oaklawn Handicap; second, beaten a nose, in the Pimlico Special; and sixth in the Stephen Foster Handicap. He missed the second half of his 4-year-old season with another ankle problem but returned in April 2013 at Oaklawn Park, where he finished fifth in an allowance race. He died three weeks later at Churchill Downs from a severe case of colic.

Over the weekend, Zayat instructed Asmussen to scratch horses he had entered Sunday at Fair Grounds and Oaklawn.

Zayat said he is “not making a generalization or passing judgment on Steve or Scott on abusing or not abusing” horses.

“Those are not the people I know,” said Zayat, who then called the whole situation “mindboggling.”

Owner Ron Winchell, who has a leading Kentucky Derby candidate in Tapiture and a leading Kentucky Oaks contender in Untapable, said through his racing manager, David Fiske, last weekend that he is keeping his horses with Asmussen.

I like this one http://into-the-stretch.blogspot.com/2014/03/peta-story-causes-uproar-about-racing.html?m=1

Anyone catch Blasis name on the supporters list? Made me laugh a little…

http://www.tbracingleague.com/?page_id=37

I wonder if Zayat will press his own charges of animal cruelty against Asmussan?

http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/LoveAngelico/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 found this today, couldn’t resist posting. Lukas’s facial expression is perfect for the caption.

[QUOTE=Angelico;7494767]
http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/LoveAngelico/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 found this today, couldn’t resist posting. Lukas’s facial expression is perfect for the caption.[/QUOTE]

That is really funny. :lol:

Zayat does remind me of a rat deserting a sinking ship. For someone who seemed heartbroken (in the press) at Nehro’s death, he sure didn’t know much about him. Isn’t he a horseplayer? Don’t betting men make it their business to know these things?

This whole matter is unpleasant. I hope TB racing will try to do a little better, for the horses’ sake though ,when people are involved, nothing is perfect. There will always be bad actors.

[QUOTE=Posting Trot;7494470]
Good article in The Atlantic on this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/the-ugly-truth-about-horse-racing/284594/[/QUOTE]

This is a superb article.