OBAMA'S ANTI GUN AGENDA URGENT NOTICE

[deltawave]

Allow everyone to own a gun. A gun. Singular. Who needs more than that, really? Need an exception to follow your life’s passion? Sure. Gun(s) is(are) kept in a local armory, under lock and key. Come play with it any time you like. Check it out for the weekend, but bring it back when you’re done . . . doing whatever it is you do with multiple weapons. :uhoh:

Or is that too much conspiracy theory, keeping our guns in the hands of “officials”?

I’m perfectly OK with people owning guns, but have a difficult time figuring out where the paranoia about “the government” comes from, or why anyone has to own great heaps of them?

Can also not for the life of me figure out why ANYONE “needs” an automatic weapon or assault rifle?

[enjoytheride]

Apparently for shooting rabid wild animals or putting your colicing horse out of his misery.

[Lori_B]

ditto enjoytheride. This is a way to start ranting about the Obama presidency over nothing. Unless you are certifiable or a convicted felon, I don’t see how this will impact your ability to stockpile an arsenal, which is completely nuts, by the way. You are all welcome to a single hunting piece, as far as I’m concerned. But civilians don’t need automatic weapons, they don’t need to own 47 guns and enough ammo to blow their homes to the moon. And when are y’all gonna join that well-ordered militia that is such a ‘oops, I forgot that’ part of the second amendment?

I like hunting and hunters. They help keep land open for trees, and horse sports, and things that aren’t walmart parking lots. But when you all act like it’s the end of the world when someone wants to keep guns out of the hands of folks who are completely crackers or who have restraining orders out on them for smacking their spouses around, when you get your panties in a twist over legal constraints on your ability to own military-grade assault weapons and armor piercing bullets, that’s when you go AROUND the bend. I am SO not buying the constitutional sanctity of your right to own a freakin’ arsenal. Sorry. Nope. Uh-uh.

[BelladonnaLily]

[QUOTE=deltawave;3639898]
Allow everyone to own a gun. A gun. Singular. Who needs more than that, really? Need an exception to follow your life’s passion? Sure. Gun(s) is(are) kept in a local armory, under lock and key. Come play with it any time you like. Check it out for the weekend, but bring it back when you’re done . . . doing whatever it is you do with multiple weapons. :uhoh:

Or is that too much conspiracy theory, keeping our guns in the hands of “officials”?

I’m perfectly OK with people owning guns, but have a difficult time figuring out where the paranoia about “the government” comes from, or why anyone has to own great heaps of them?

Can also not for the life of me figure out why ANYONE “needs” an automatic weapon or assault rifle?[/QUOTE]

I’ll agree with you on the auto/assault weapons…I dont’ know but I still don’t think laws against them are going to curtail crime. I personally see no need for them.

But, I’ll be damned if my hard-working law abiding husband should have to go “check out” his hunting rifles in order to go hunting. Now, I’ll admit I get a little aggravated when new guns show up here, but for different reasons :lol: He has probably 10-15 out in his shop right now. A few are family heirlooms, the rest are various hunting guns. We don’t a handgun or any type of “assault” weapon.

Locking up guns to “check out” is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. How many criminals do you think are actually going to lock their guns up in a local armory?

[cloudyandcallie]

[QUOTE=deltawave;3639898]
Allow everyone to own a gun. A gun. Singular. Who needs more than that, really? Need an exception to follow your life’s passion? Sure. Gun(s) is(are) kept in a local armory, under lock and key. Come play with it any time you like. Check it out for the weekend, but bring it back when you’re done . . . doing whatever it is you do with multiple weapons. :uhoh:

Or is that too much conspiracy theory, keeping our guns in the hands of “officials”?

I’m perfectly OK with people owning guns, but have a difficult time figuring out where the paranoia about “the government” comes from, or why anyone has to own great heaps of them?

Can also not for the life of me figure out why ANYONE “needs” an automatic weapon or assault rifle?[/QUOTE]

hmmmm, when I went to college in Virginia, we didn’t fox hunt with auto weapons. Maybe times have changed?

I’m not anti-gun, read previous post. I am anti-gun nut. Guns need to be registered. And civilians don’t need armor-piercing bullets, those bullets kill cops:eek:

The extreme right and the extreme left are both nuts!

And I said foxhunting, so this is horse related.

[Glimmerglass]

Well, I frankly don’t see the need for anyone to own an Uzi nor should a child be allowed to use one either. From October 27, 2008 in Massachusetts: Associated Press -“Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show”

With an instructor watching, an 8-year-old boy at a gun fair aimed an Uzi at a pumpkin and pulled the trigger as his dad reached for a camera.

It was his first time shooting a fully automatic machine gun, and the recoil of the weapon was too much for him. He lost control and fatally shot himself in the head.

I’ve fired a variety of weapons from those made by H&K to Beretta and even I wouldn’t see the logic/benefit/rationale of me using that gun let alone a child.

I’m a resident of Chicago and linking Obama as a US Senator to any of the deaths in this city is just as stupid as saying any drunk driving accident can be blammed on the President of the United States for having not done “something”. A Sentator is not a rule maker for the City of Chicago or Cook County.

[canticle]

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Can also not for the life of me figure out why ANYONE “needs” an automatic weapon or assault rifle?[/QUOTE]
yeah why does the government need them?

[Guilherme]

[QUOTE=enjoytheride;3639729]
I think it’s a loophole because it’s a large gun show with a huge number of weapons in the same place with an awful lot of private sellers so you don’t need background checks for to buy. Yes, some of the dealers do require background checks and accept credit cards but many only take cash and do no background checks. [/QUOTE]

And you know this because…?

How many gun shows have you ever attended? How many weapons have you bought and sold? Do you know the rules for obtaining a Federal FFL?

ALL dealers must have an FFL. Private, casual sales no not need an FFL form or background check. This is true in my living room or in an auditorium.

@enjoytheride;3639729

Then what are the federal laws for buying an automatic weapon? I know that here you can purchase an automatic weapon at a gun show either in a box of parts or with the end filled with concrete as a “display” with no background check for cash from a “private seller” that also has dozens of other weapons for sale. It’s been a few years since I’ve been to a gun show so I’m not sure if the laws have changed.

IIRC (I’ve never owned a Class III) you must first be in compliance with the laws of your state. Some states forbid Class III ownership (WI, IL, NY, etc.). They are permitted in TN.

Second, you must apply for a transfer permit, pay the Federal tax ($200 IIRC), and have the transfer approved. IIRC your local sheriff has to sign off on the form.

It’s not just go down to the local gun show and pick one up; not if you intend to comply with the law.

@enjoytheride;3639729

This isnt horse related and the election is over so I’m stepping out of this thread before it gets closed anyway.

It is horse related if you’re into cavalry re-enacting. The Thommpson Submachinegun and BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) were issued to the horse cavalry in some numbers. I know some re-enactors who own them (some in their full auto form).

But, as you wish.

G.

[Moderator_3]

Not horse related