How in the world did crazy mom even know who you were? hezus… does crazy trainer have your and Tommy’s pics posted up at the barn, sort of like her personal most wanted list.
Its a good thing I’m not your mother, Fleur, or crazy trainer and mom would have probably disappeared under suspicious circumstances by now. :lol::lol:
Trevelyan96… ding ding ding, we have a winner. Fleur, you are a very creative and talented writer. This is a great story. But there is no way its true. The story becomes more and more outrageous as time goes on. Its a great attention grabber, so I hope you are getting the attention you want but I don’t see how it can possibly be true.
Perhaps her story has been a bit embellished. It sounds like stuff I’ve seen on TV (same story different location)
It just seems unlikely that a woman would start screaming at her. If she was prepared to buy a horse for her daughter, wouldn’t she have talked to the seller? Better yet, since there was no horse for sale, how did she even know fleur was the owner? I dunno, I just don’t understand how this could have happened.
George, Disp: How fortunate for you both to have never been the victim of a stalker.
I wish you guys would stop bagging on the arapintaloosa and begin to direct the emotion towards him that he deserves… SYMPATHY!!! After all, the poor mutt is now owned by these delusional whackadoo’s and he’s got the added pressure of needing to get his rider to the OLYMPICS! Poor thing! 
Sansena, there is so much about this story that makes no sense.
Fleur seems to have a nice but average horse. Some how, out of a sea of horses, she gets picked to be stalked by local trainer. Fleur has only briefly met this trainer and never spoken to her. It sound like Fleur has only gone to a few shows where the trainer was.
Local trainer sends flat out outrageous emails that no adult would ever send. They are beyond stalker, they are just not believeable. No one, no matter how insane, would be saying some of the things in those emails.
Fleur has an uncle who is a lawyer and a friend who is a police officer. Instead of going to them, Fleur engages the trainer in a dialog and comes on here posting up a storm for ages before anything formal is done.
Finally, Fleur has lawyer send a letter to the trainer and she goes away.
Fleur doesn’t know who the alleged buyer is but somehow she notices on Craig’s list that the trainer is posting an ad for a horse that sounds like hers. Funny coincidence that Fleur would happen to see that. Fleur doesn’t come back and share that detail with everyone but hangs on to it for today’s installment of the story.
Fleur is out in public this weekend. Fleur has never met the person who supposedly wants to buy the horse. yet somehow, this person identifies Fleur and comes up to her yelling. No one in the tack shop does anything. Fleur doesn’t ask anyone to interevene. An adult is screaming at a kid about aparaloosas and the olympics and the kid and the store do nothing?! A crazy conversation ensues. Totally crazy. Like, no adult would say those things crazy (aparaloosa, kid is going to the olympics etc.) so now we have 2 adults that say things no adult would ever say, in very similar ways, and yet we’re to believe everyone else stood around and watched listened and didn’t do anything. I mean, this stranger was screaming at a kid in the tack shop and no one did anything?
Crazy mom somehow identified Fleur, even though Fleur has never met her and the shows where trainer saw the horse were last year? Does Fleur have a shirt with her name written on it? How did they identify her?
Fleur didn’t call her lawyer uncle or police officer friend at the time this was happening?
When she did call, they told her nothing could be done? That also makes no sense. If this person was publicly threatening Fleur, she could potentially get a restraining order and you would think a lawyer and police officer would know that.
There may be a kernel of truth buried somewhere but there’s a lot about this story that is too crazy to believe.
Of course it doesn’t make sense to you, you’re not insane. The trainer and the mother, however… I’m sure it all makes sense to them.
Wow, Fleur must have a lot of time on her hands to concoct such a crazy and grand scheme of a story… Wow… I know at 17 I sat around thinking up eleborate lies. And sharing them with all my friends. yes, that must be what she’s doing.
Actually, I used to have an Arab that won at all the shows we took him to and I had been stalked, more than once and by more than one person, with an open checkbook insisting I sell him to them. First off, he was given to me by someone who passed from cancer and second, anyone that psycho needed to stay far, far away from my horse.
And even if Fleur didn’t meet the owner personally, the obviously show at the same shows so it’s not that hard to recognize someone in the tack shop that has been beating the pants off their kid when they seem them at shows.
Authentic and Hickstead better watch out, this horse is ready to give them a run for their money at the next Olympics! :lol:
I supposed today’s installment could be verified if we know what tack shop. surely that scene was heard and witnessed by the employees and they could conform/deny. A link to the craig’s list ad would also be support.
I don’t doubt that there is some bit of truth to the story, but there’s so much piled on outrageous stuff-- there is no way it’s all true. I am surpised how many people just blindly accept all of this.
I happen to know Fleur and this has truly happened. She is a wonderful girl, and has had a horrible run in with this said trainer.
Tommy is a sweet boy just young and gangly.
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Trevelyan96… ding ding ding, we have a winner. Fleur, you are a very creative and talented writer. This is a great story. But there is no way its true. The story becomes more and more outrageous as time goes on. Its a great attention grabber, so I hope you are getting the attention you want but I don’t see how it can possibly be true.[/QUOTE]
Oh… well, I wasn’t trying to imply that the story is not true. Merely stating that if Fleur were my daughter I’d have probably given concrete proof that I’m just as crazy as trainer and mom.
I mean, this stranger was screaming at a kid in the tack shop and no one did anything?
I’ve got no arapintaloosa in this fight, but haven’t you ever been to a horse show? And seen kids getting yelled at by adults?And no one else intervening? An evidently wacko adult yelling at a 17 year old wouldn’t necessarily prompt intervening where I live, sadly, unless it were a man yelling at a teenage girl, which might.
As for the OP, too bad she’d not of legal drinking age. I’d have needed one after that encounter!
WWGeorgeMorrisD wrote:
Its a great attention grabber, so I hope you are getting the attention you want but I don’t see how it can possibly be true.
I am surpised how many people just blindly accept all of this.
Well, OBVIOUSLY, Georgie, you’re just upset that the posters have dissed your arapintaloosa and your 12-year-old non-Olympic-potential offspring. Clearly, there’s absolutely no reason in the world you would post such blatant and outrageous statements in questioning Fleur otherwise. Since you clearly have additional information on exactly what did or did not happen in that tack shop, you MUST be lunatic deluded mom or you wouldn’t be posting such drivel. :rolleyes::dead:
(Sarcasm off. SHEEEEESSSHHH!) What IS with people on this board who have to attack a poster because the attacker simply doesn’t WANT to believe it could POSSIBLY be true? All anecdotes are, necessarily, told from one perspective. The other person(s) involved would no doubt tell a different tale of the same episode, but that doesn’t mean either is lying.
Personally, it’s harder for me to believe that people make up this kind of stuff out of whole cloth routinely and manage to have consistency in their posts. For one thing, there are too many people who can’t communicate effectively even when it’s a completely true incident, it’s that much harder when they’re trying to write fiction. :lol: Not saying it doesn’t happen on occasion, but I doubt it happens anywhere near the number of times that the attackers seem to believe. Careful reading of posts generally makes it fairly clear which are blatant attention-seekers (they tend to fall apart VERY quickly – generally within the first one or two posts) and which are potentially true – no matter how implausible. Instead of attacking straight off, why not ask politely for additional clarification – without accusation, if you can manage it?
At 17 yrs old I doubt that Fleur is going to look like a minor to a bunch of strangers in a tack store. Most people nowdays don’t want to get involved. If they thought she was an adult and she was calmly handling it and had a male friend there that stepped in to help why should they get involved. She does not indicate how old the male friend is so he either is an adult or may be old enough that he appears to be an adult.
As far as her not knowing these people but them recognizing her- crazy trainer could have pointed fleur out at one of the horse shows where fleur was either showing or watching or at an awards banquet or tack swap etc… Fleur would have known that one of crazy trainers client supposedly wants her horse but would not know which of the bunch.
It may seem obvious to us on this horse board that the child should ride the horse before they buy it. But for non-horsey parents they may have been feed some BS that the trainer picks out the horse for all her clients. After all the trainer picked out all the lesson horses that the child rides and so why wouldn’t the trainer pick out child’s Olympic Horse?
Regretfully there are some really good con-artists out there and it sounds like crazy trainer is one of those. Some things that makes con-artists so successful is their ability to pick a perfect mark and the perfect strategy to separate them from their money. In this case is sounds like crazy trainer has picked a slightly unstable adult that is living vicariously through her daughter and as long a trainer outrageously flatters that child by saying/implying the child needs XXX horse to get her to the Olympics because she rides so well the money will keep on flowing to the trainer.
If I am not mistaken isn’t Tommy/Winston black? I think trainer is also playing into the Black Stallion/Black Beauty syndrome. I think the fact that fleur’s horse is black may be some of the driving force on why this horse. Fleur has non-horsey parents, hasn’t been consistently working with a trainer and is a teenager so crazy trainer may feel that she can bully Fleur into a sale. If Fleur was consistently working with a LBNT then I think that would not have occurred or at least not to this degree. Crazy trainer probably would have thought twice about picking on another trainer’s student.
As far as not calling the police at the time of the tack store incidence I could easily see that. It would be my first thought that if I just explained that my horse was not for sale and had never been for sale and that this was all a BIG misunderstanding then OlympicwannabeMom would calm down and leave me alone a lot faster than the police could arrive. Why waste the police’s time.
Understand that it is easy as an adult and with 20/20 hindsight to say well why didn’t she do xxxxx? For most well brought up children you are supposed to respect the adults and defer to them.(Teachers, instructors, neighbors, relatives, adult friends of parents ect…) Therefore it is going to be harder for most teenagers to be disrespectful to an adult and not just take being yelled out.
A stalker? Doesn’t sound like a stalker to me There is the trainer, who has some pretty far out & peculiar ideas and there is a woman who thinks she was buying a horse for her daughter .
So far, I dont’ see a victim. I see VERY odd behavior on the part of the trainer & the woman in the tack shop.
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WWGeorgeMorrisD wrote:
Well, OBVIOUSLY, Georgie, you’re just upset that the posters have dissed your arapintaloosa and your 12-year-old non-Olympic-potential offspring. [/QUOTE]
That must be it! You have outted me!
I don’t mean any harm to Fleur and I have said I don’t doubt that there is some truth to the stories (I believe the trainer originally contacted her and was a pain in the rear), but I just am in awe that hundreds of grown adults here on the board give 100% full credit to a story full of details that are too outrageous to be true. just surprised.
Out of curiosity, I ran a search and can’t find the craig’s list ad. Maybe Fleur will post a link and prove me wrong.
It doesn’t really matter. If you want to believe the entire story go fo it. It sounds outrageous to me, and pretty embellished. No worries. If Fleur didn’t want people talking about it- she wouldn’t post. We’re talking about it. She must be okay with that or she wouldn’t have posted.
Or, wouldn’t her lawyer uncle or police officer friend have told her to quit posting about this stuff? And if she was really scared, would she be on her posting knowing the people involved might read this? How does she know they don’t come on this board?
Nevermind all the insanity - I want an Arapintaloosa! Where can I find one?!!!?
I’ve been stuck with Appypintabians all my life, and have been trying fruitlessly to find a Pintapparaloosabian, but would be completely STOKED with an Arapintaloosa!!!
C’mon, someone tell me, puhleeeez?!
:lol:
:lol::lol:
It doesn’t really matter.
Exactly. Which is why I’m mystified at the many people (and I’m NOT just referring to this specific OP or the individuals involved, including WWGeoge!!) who get so worked up about whether a post is 100% true or not and go on the warpath to REQUIRE full confirmation of every single detail. It’s one person’s experience, one person’s perception of events, period. It’s posted for the same reasons that everyone posts – for feedback, suggestions, venting, to share, whatever. Why get worked up over whether or not the OP did every single thing EXACTLY as you (collective you, not referring to anyone specifically) would have done and whether every single detail is able to be proven true to your (again, collective you) satisfaction?
Most posters, whether the incident is completely true or not, don’t think on their feet fast enough to do or say every single thing in the heat of the moment that we as armchair quarterbacks have the luxury of doing when posting or questioning their posts. 
Lots of the others are careful to NOT post too many details (state, name of tack shop, specific show where an incident occurred, etc.) just in case the other parties involved might be reading, and also to protect the poster’s anonymity on in the internet in general. In this case, with the OP being a 17-year-old, I think she is most definitely smart NOT to post her location or other identifying detail on any internet site. To me, omitting such details does not immediately signal a fictional post. YMMV, but I think careful reading of the posts is more valuable in determining veracity than whether or not identifying detail is included.
As for no one in the store stepping in to help the 17 year old:
Apparently WWGeorgeMorrisD has never watched that “what would you do” segment of ABCnews.
As for whether her story is true or not, WHO CARES? If you don’t believe the story, then roll your eyes and walk away. Start wanting the names of tack stores and employees, and you start looking like your own sort of stalker.
Fleur:
Let it roll off your shoulder. One of the teens at the barn I board at was confronted by an adult QH trainer at a local show. Teen was in the lead for year end points (on her own QH who is now doing low level dressage and hunters), and QH trainer was behind her. QH trainer marches over to her stall after the next to last show and says “We’ll settle this next time, QH vs QH”. Teen thought she was kidding and started laughing… trainer freaked out. Luckily teens mom was right there and went into mama bear mode which shut down the whole scene real quick. So yeah, I could see your story happening.
George - When I was 15 or 16 my mom dated a psycho ex guy who stalked us constantly. Finally came to a head when he was asked to move his tool shed off our property he decided to talk to my BO and tell her everything was fine but could he move it to their property in exchange for working on some of the barn tractors. BO didn’t think anything since we were the type to stick to ourselves - no drama type boarders and she could use the help on the farm. We pull up the next day to find his tool shed place EXACTLY behind my horse’s stall. Needless to say I flipped out! We notified BO immediately that we had a restraining order against him, she called the police and had one of the barn workers drag it to the curb with a tractor.
Three months later when I was trying to sell one of my horses he convinced a friend of his to come try my horse out. Of course he showed up with “buyer” and I said I’m sorry I can’t sell the horse to you. She asked why. I said, I just don’t think it’s a good fit and I promptly got on the cell phone to my cop friend. They were out of there in two seconds flat. As show season rolled around, he was at every show I was either competing or spectating at. Luckily I always brought friends with me.
One day I ran into this “friend” who wanted to supposedly buy my horse at the tack shop I was working at. She went off on me about how it was unprofessional how I denied her the horse, how she took work off all that day to come see him, and how she’ll make sure that the next sale horse I had would never get sold. I simply said “I was concerned for the welfare of my horse, and knowing who you were associating with gave me affirmation that I could find a better home for him.” Needless to say, my next horse was sold in 3 weeks.
People like that really do exist.
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