Yes.
Yes halter definitely looks way too small. Poor foal
Yes, and part of the business model is using ICSI on expensive, rare straws of semen because you donât use an entire straw for that. Just a small portion. That reduces the semen cost substantially because one straw can be used for many foals if you are lucky.
On the auction subject, I would estimate sheâs likely to get high four figures from most of the foals. There will always be people willing to roll the dice on a baby with a flashy sire name, on the thought they can sell it to people down the line who donât really understand breeding at all. I know many, many trainers who donât follow breeding much. If you sell at 4/5/6, the malnutrition probably wonât have had time to cause too many negative effects either.
But it is on a weanling. I donât ever remember seeing anything sitting that low on anything (mare or foal) for ID purposes. Usually theyâre up closer to the throat latch and of something really easy to break.
Yes, I would never leave even a halter on a baby. Their necks are so fragile. Itâs a disaster waiting to happen.
She will end up getting 4 figures on the babies, certainly more than $200. Grade babies sell for more than that. They are registered and out of well known sires and people will take a gamble.
Only when beer gets poured on her, IIRC.
The foals are small and have less than ideal conformation for sport. I doubt they will sell for much to experienced homes.
Kate/Kathryn Shearer must be pretty well known in the area by now, so people will know that the animals have been neglected. That wonât help.
I hope all the poor beasties have a soft landing.
They are registered and out of well known sires and people will take a gamble.
Friendly neighborhood pedant over here would like to point out itâs BY a stallion, out of a mare. Okay carry on
But I would not advise anyone to breed. Itâs expensive and often a heartbreaker even when you do everything right.
Amen. I always say it is like A Tale of Two Cities⊠It is the best of times - and the worst of times. When the mareâs water breaks, I always feel slightly nauseous because from this point on, two lives may depend on me and the vet may not get there fast enough.
But maybe I should just be like Kate and not really care. How cute is it that she calls horses she has neglected her âfurkidsâ. No. Just no.
Is this the one everyone was referring to upthread that they keep chasing? I wouldnât be chasing a goal in the fieldâŠpersonally. He cross canters (not that well-built, sound horses wonât occasionally cross canter). And, another rope around the neck?
AlsoâŠthat knee action doesnât scream âhunter prospectâ to me. I own a selle francais and let me tell you, the French trotter really shines through. I can also tell you she wonât be winning a flat class in her lifetime.
Iâve cared for exactly 3 foals in my life, which arguably isnât a lot, but we never, not once, tied a rope around a neck. We never chased them in the pastures. Or maybe ever? Once we free lunged in the arena with mom.
35K? No way. Small for his age as well.
So out behind. This one is out of the Ulandro mare I think. I wonder why?
Oh wait, the Harness lines want them out behind. They want hind leg action, but donât need power or sit like jumpers and dressage horses do.
Ulandro:
Just look at that flat croup and hind leg.
I am not opposed to crossbreeding, but I feel for the uneducated buyers who think you can get the good results in F1. Usually when you breed in you have a long term goal for 2-3 gens out.
Holy hell. I knew a few people who worked with this breeder, and someone who bought a horse from them for their client (I was no pro but still savvy enough to be confused by how said horse was ever going to be an âupper level jumperâ). It seriously makes me question the ethics of all of these people. Iâm glad I stumbled on this thread⊠crazy is one thing, full-on neglect is another. Those poor babies
Here is the foal from July, supposedly. So thereâs that
Oh forgodssake thatâs awful.
Way too tight. Hard to see, but it looks like the bottom left might be tight as well.
That poor creature. Unfortunate in oh so many ways.
Does a stallion owner/broker have any recourse, if a straw sold with the intention of making one foal is suddenly used to make more than that?
Does a stallion owner/broker have any recourse, if a straw sold with the intention of making one foal is suddenly used to make more than that?
Depends on the contract. Most frozen is sold with no LFG so they canât do much about the buyer splitting straws without a pretty aggressive contract that they also have to be willing to enforce.
Iâm asking more on the registration front. Or do they have no recourse if the DNA matches up? Iâm not a breeder, but Iâve read here the stallion owner needs to sign for the foals papers, but maybe thatâs just certain breeds.