I think that rider conformation matters. Some of the ruffled shirts can make riders look top-heavy, which is not at all the impression we want to convey. I think you have to decide whether you need to look sleek and quiet, or you need some visual interest near your face/head. Really, the ride is not about YOU, it’s about your horse.
What’s a choker??
I don’t like the new ruffled shirts and stock ties. I don’t think they look good on anyone. I like a nice clean looking collar with a clean and neat looking stock tie. I tie my stock, but I’m not going to lie, it’s a pain. I don’t worry too much about getting it perfect, as long as it looks neat. Although, the last show I was at I actually managed to tie it perfectly and it looked great. I think that was a fluke. lol. 
I do like the shirt that Arabian dressage posted with the plain collar with a single row of ruffles down the front - I think that looks quite nice.
I bought my pre-tied stock tie from this eBay seller, and I am very happy with it: http://www.ebay.com/usr/0126michelle1209?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754. She shipped super fast, even coming from the UK I had my stock tie within a week of placing my order.
My only complaint that they do run a bit small, but once I lost weight it fits perfectly. I have never washed mine, but it’s cotton so I don’t see why it couldn’t be thrown in the wash on cold.
I’ve decided to be a trend setter - I’m a convert from H/J land and had gotten lovely, at the time new/trendy snap collared shirts. Haven’t sold them as I was just too sad to think about it, so yeah, I’m going to embrace the rules and forego the frou-frou look! I can honestly say that the stock ties and the WHITE breeches, were the hardest parts of the conversion, lol
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With the new integrated stand up collar rule, well not so new just people didn’t test it right away we have sold a number of these:
As a jacket covers the blue, this little shirt seems quite popular.
These seem to be a dressage rider favorite though:
I personally have the BVertigo Lorraine and ride in it, I love it.
If you go the stock tie route know there are stock ties that go on like a regular choke collar with the “pin” already integrated so they are a really fast on and off, like this one:
http://www.theconnectedrider.com/riding-apparel/clothing-accessories/harrys-horse-stock-tie/
We had some of the crunch style that are so popular but we are waiting on a restock of those (they have little crystals on them so they sold fast, lol!)
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I have been drooling over the new DE catalog. Some of the new styles would look cute with my vintage diamond and emerald stock pin. Then I remember I’ve aged out of cute and don’t show anyway.
That Lorraine shirt is nice but they wouldn’t be legal when jackets are waived, would they?
I have a short neck and stock ties never were a good look on me. Come to think about it though foof on the chest isn’t either.
Sigh, sometimes I go shopping with my 30 something daughters and can’t help thinking “Once upon a time I could have really rocked that look”
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Do you know what a ratcatcher is? They seem to be used in different geographic areas. The velcro/pin/button on collar used in hunt seat.
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Yes am familiar with ratcatcher. That’s great if I can get away with just wearing one of those and no stock!
Thanks 
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I’ve decided to be a trend setter - I’m a convert from H/J land and had gotten lovely, at the time new/trendy snap collared shirts. Haven’t sold them as I was just too sad to think about it, so yeah, I’m going to embrace the rules and forego the frou-frou look! I can honestly say that the stock ties and the WHITE breeches, were the hardest parts of the conversion, lol[/QUOTE]
You can just tie a stock over your snap/tech shirt. I tie one over a zip neck white tech shirt all the time for dressage shows. Of course, I’m also usually one of, if not the only, person actually tying an old-school stock tie rather than a velcro-on ruffle.
I’ve also done dressage schooling shows in a ratcatcher, too.
I tie my stock tie - it’s a synthetic FITS tie so it’s easy to wash and doesn’t need to be ironed. It’s very easy to tie a stock (I taught myself by watching videos online in about 10 minutes) and mine is soft and a bit stretchy, so it doesn’t choke me. I can wear it over any shirt, and have worn Nike zip-neck running shirts under my jacket when it’s cold.
That said, I like the look of the Goode Rider ruffle shirts and may get one to wear with vests for schooling shows, although my plain zip-neck show shirts or Nike running pullovers also work just fine for that.
OMG never knew they had integrated shirts, I love the idea!!
