OsPhos - anybody used it yet?

[arabiansrock]

We had our spring shot clinic this weekend and my vet recommended we try OsPhos for my 19 yr old gelding with really bad hocks. he said he has had great success with this for horses with conditions that cause bone pain like navicular, kissing spine, arthritis. So we gave the shot, he said it takes about a month to see effect, takes time for drug to do its work. We are also going to do Pentosan, to attack the arthritis from the joint fluid/cartilage aspect also.

Since OsPhos is relatively new to the market, I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences with it, pro or con.

[clint]

I read this study a while ago, and thought it really interesting. Although I have a horse with navicular, I’m not in a hurry to try Osphos.http://www.doctorramey.com/ready-tildren-osphos/

[Warmbloodmom]

I did Osphos on my gelding in late December 2015. I saw a huge improvement in his hocks at the 2 week mark! His hocks are arthritic, lots of fusion trying to happen, he was on Previcox and Pentosan and that helped him some before the Osphos. He is still going well. There are some days when he is a bit stiffer but way better than before the Osphos. I will redo the injection in late summer for my vet said he doesn’t like to reinject before 8 months. He was a grade 2 lame before the Osphos and he is a very slight grade 1 now so it helped for sure.

[cloudy18]

It’s been used on a couple rescue horses with navicular that I know about, with good results.

[someday]

My horse with pedal osteitis who has been pretty much on/off lame for the past few years is getting it on Wednesday. Not expecting miracles, but hoping to have him comfortable enough that we can do consistent flat work and some baby jumps.

[theresak]

I used it 2 months ago for my horse with a collateral ligament injury of the fetlock with bone remodeling at the origin. We re-checked 8 weeks later and he no longer flexed sore.

It also seems to have helped the bit of swelling he gets in the front of his hock when they need to be done. I can’t tell you if his hocks feel like they do after they’ve been injected since we are still just walking.

The pH of injection is off, so it makes the neck hurt after injection, but that is pretty short-lived (not sore the next day). My horse did show signs of colic about 15-20 minutes after and got an injection of an anti-spasmodic. 45 minutes later he was back to eating hay. But I would make sure your vet hangs around for at least 30 minutes after administering the Osphos.

[goodmorning]

What are people paying for the drug when it’s been administered by their vet?

[LearningBearWithMe]

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Had it last week and I believe it was $400 or so (Northern Virginia).

[abrant]

My gelding got it. He has super crooked hind pastern bones and had some bone remodeling where his collateral ligament passes over the fetlock joint. I’ve been on a roller coaster with this horse so I don’t want to say really if I think it worked or not.

I CAN say that he has stocked up in his fetlocks regularly for 3-4 years and he no longer does that.

My vet worked on the clinical trials. Colic is a side-effect but it’s rare and in the study she worked on, only 1 horse needed to be treated. My gelding started colicing pretty badly within minutes of the last shot and needed treatment and about 2 hours of attention. BECAUSE HE’S SPECIAL. Thankfully we were the last appointment of the day and my amazing vet hung around returning phone calls and catching up on paperwork while Mr Sensitive decided he wasn’t going to die.

I paid $290 for the Osphos. (Total bill - lameness exam, x-ray, osphos, banamine, farm call - ~$600).

[Danier]

My vet has just started using Osphos.
He has used it now on I think four horses with navicular. They received it a little over a month ago, last I heard from him he was still waiting for updates.
But I don’t think any of the horses were actually being ridden over the winter, one is my friend 's horse that is retired and hasn’t been ridden in over a year. So not sure how great the results are expected to be for these guys.

I had my horse done 10 days ago. She is coming 8 and has quite severe hock arthritis.
She’s been on pentosan for three years, and had one hock injected three times, most recently in January. There was much improvement after the ia injection, but I still feel she could be better, so I decided to give it a try. Can’t hurt anything except my wallet.
Vet said to give it 6 weeks to see if there is improvement.
I paid about $600 for the Osphos and all services (I’m in Canada, so exchange rate and all that)

[superD]

My gelding received it about 3 weeks ago. (He has navicular changes.) He has been going well until Monday when he was lame at the walk again. His shoe was a bit loose and he had some pebbles stuck between his pad and his heels. So I am really hoping that was his problem. Farrier was out today to fix it. Hopefully he will be sound again by Thursday when I can get to the barn again.

I paid $360 for barn call and injection. He was colicky the day after but didn’t need the vet called.

[TWH_Girl]

Okay, help me out here…navicular is a form of arthritis, and Osphos is now being used for hock arthritis. By the same token, wouldn’t Osphos be helpful for other types of arthritis as well? Why only certain joints?

[arabiansrock]

My vet says it is helpful for other types of arthritis. The initial approval studies were done for navicular.

Glad to hear it appears to be helping others. I have my fingers crossed and am hopeful. Will report back on how he does on it. Vet says will take about a month to really see effects if we are going to have any.

[someday]

I paid $400 today just for the injection. After years of dealing with on again, off again lameness (i.e., heartache) with this horse, I am cautiously optimistic

[staceymc]

I have an (almost) 8 year old gelding with minor case of kissing spine. We did Osphos last July and haven’t had to shockwave or do steroid injections on him since. Prior to the Osphos I was having to do that every 3-4 months. I paid $400. Did not have any reaction to the injection. Vet did it first thing, just in case, since he was going to be at the farm all day working on lots of horses.

[Personal_Champ]

My mare is getting it this morning - it costs $400 where she is at.

[flaxenfilly23]

I used it about 5 months ago on my eventing mare. Over the past year or so she has had on and off soreness in her front feet when barefoot (completely sound shod) so I decided to get x-rays taken to see what was going on (August 2015). The vet who took the x-rays said she had the worst navicular changes in a 5 year old he had ever seen. I immediately put shoes back on her and started her on EquiBone. About 3 months later (November 2015), I heard about Osphos and decided to give it a try as well. She was completely sound so I continued to work her like normal, including jumping her. To make sure my continuing to jump her was not causing further degenerative changes I decided to get x-rays taken every 6 months to keep an eye on things. At her 6 month check-up (Feb 2016) the report was “remarkable improvement with a pristine skyline”. I was floored and beyond elated. I can’t say if it was the Equibone, the Osphos, or a combination of both, but I now highly recommend both products to everyone who asks!

[pegasusmom]

Have used it very successfully twice in the last three months, once with a 19+ year old combined driving pony we did not want to inject hocks on, and recently with 11 year old OTTB . Very impressed with results.

[horsepoor]

I’ve used it twice. One is a horse with a severe bone bruise in the coffin bone – vet actually suggested Tildren along with other treatment but I opted for the cheaper Osphos (which he thought was a good alternative). Can’t say for sure if it did anything or not as the horse is still lame after 6 months of rest. The only way to “see” what is happening would be to do another MRI of the foot, which won’t be happening.

Other horse has cervical arthritis that has responded to injection in the past, but he’s IR/EMS and I was reluctant to put any steroids into him again so we tried Osphos to see if it would help. He also had stifle OCD surgery that has needed injections in the past, so there was some hope the Osphos might do some good without risking steroid injections. I think it did help him some – it wasn’t as dramatic as the change when we injected his neck, but he did improve.

Cost was something in the neighborhood of $370 for the Osphos, plus farm call. One of them did get slightly colicky not long after injecting and was resolved by walking for a bit. My vet said if they were going to react like that, it would be fairly quickly, like in the first 4 hours or so post-injection, so we had timed it so he’d be here doing other work or in the neighborhood at another farm. But I did not need to do more than walk the one.

[drawstraws]

My vet was out on Tuesday to do spring shots and while discussing my 12 year old gelding with bad hocks she asked if I had ever considered Osphos. I knew it was used for navicular but hadn’t realized it was an option for hock arthritis at all. She said she thought their typical charge was around $350 and that she’s done maybe 10 horses or so with it and all were doing well. She said she had one who coliced but that he was a “delicate flower” so she kind of expected it from him but no other issues. Will be getting on my boy in the next week or two after he’s been sitting all winter so we’ll see how he feels. May consider that as an alternative to more hock injections.