Padding under stall mats

I have a laminitic horse who is currently in softride boots and on thick shavings over traditional rubber mats over stone dust.

I am looking at the various “soft stall” products and the installation process seems really difficult. Has anyone put some kind of softer mat product directly under the regular rubber mats for a little extra cushion?

I have some 3’x3’ interlocking closed cell foam mats (I think for play areas or something) that I bought to use in the aisle when he is getting trimmed, etc, and he is very comfortable on them. I’m thinking to buy enough and do his whole stall in them directly between the stone dust and the rubber mats. I wouldn’t mind if they needed to be replaced every so often.

Has anyone done anything like this and how did it work out? Or any other suggestions? He currently does not get hock sores, FYI.

I think this would be really, really tough without a single piece on top of everything. If you put something with give under regular stall mats, the stall mat edges will lift as the horse moves around, and bedding will go underneath. It’ll pretty quickly become a wavy, smelly mess as dirty bedding works it’s way under the mats.

Aren’t there some softer mats out there? Maybe that would be an option between regular mats & the mattress systems? Like, hmmm, these?

I have the equimats. I’ve had them 12 years and am very happy with them. My mare will walk inside with an abscess when she wouldn’t with standard black mats.

However they are twice the price of black mats and I don’t think they are soft enough for laminitis. They are not as soft as a deeply bedded stall. As a kid I put a foot of shavings/saw dust in a concrete floored stall and it was as soft anything (we got sawdust by the ton and it was cheap).

thank you :slight_smile: I really appreciate the real-life review - My horse is well past the critical stage, he is comfortable in his SoftRides and I’m just thinking to add a little cush or maybe he could be comfortable enough out of them when in his stall and let his feet breathe a little bit.

Maybe try the deep bed method so the shavings don’t shift (although I don’t like the idea of leaving urine soaked bedding in the stall). You could pack down sawdust or broken down pellets and put a deep bed of straw on top. I have tried this method with peat moss and it was really soft but my god it was dusty. Everybody was coughing up brown dust so I don’t recommend that.

I second the suggestion to try bedding him on straw (over just enough sawdust/broken down pellets to absorb urine).

When my late Arabian was laminatic, I also had him on very deep shavings. The vet at the time did not flag that for me. But since then, I have had a different horse in the hospital and the surgeon at that hospital told me that no Horse should be in very deep shavings because it is so much work for them to move around. I think back now and I realize how hard it was for my poor Arabian to move around. Imagine trying to move around in very very deep sand. So while you want the shavings to be soft, more is not better. Do not put him in extremely deep shavings.

I recall a possibly simplistic rule of thumb that if a horse limps more on hard ground it’s likely hoof and if they limp more on soft ground, it’s further up the leg. All the advice for acute laminitis is pad, pad, pad whether that’s easy boot clouds or foam taped to the hoof or deep bedding. Reduce the stressors on the hoof capsule while it’s vulnerable. Active laminitis is hot and painful. It could be triggered by sugar in feed, carb overload, metabolic issues, fever, vaccine reaction, bad hoof angles, intense work on hard surfaces, or even a hoof trim that changes the angles (in my observation).

You need to be active in fixing the cause, take pressure off the foot, ice and use anti-inflammatories.

If you’re fortunate the active laminitis will resolve and the horse will not founder. I understand that a horse with a good trim and hoof shape is less likely to founder from a single laminitis episode than one with a stretched toe and under run heels.

There are also trimmers who identify what they call “subclinical” laminitis, which might mean low grade ongoing hoof inflammation that the owner hasn’t yet noticed, or could be the effects of founder, or poor ongoing hoof maintenance, or could be imaginary.

But anyhow, laminitis is acute and an emergency situation that needs to be resolved ASAP to limit long term damage through founder. Padding any way you can is important.

Founder is the long term modification of the hoof capsule after being weakened by laminitis (or perhaps really bad trimming) and it also needs hoof padding plus a therapeutic trim program to fix the hoof angles as much as possible.

Horses with hoof abscess or hoof bruise will also seek out softer footing. Our barn has stalls with mats, variable amounts of shavings (it’s DIY so everyone does what seems best for their horse), and small runout paddocks (sand or hogfuel cedar mulch). Horses under my care have always been on hogfuel paddocks and they absolutely prefer the paddock to the stall when they have an abscess. But neither the stalls nor the paddocks get so deep and fluffy that the horses have trouble moving around! I deep bed half the stall and it tends to pack down to a similar feel to the paddocks, and the horses will choose to sleep and stand resting on that side.

I have been very lucky to not have dealt with any soft tissue injuries except once very long ago. My horse as a kid once pulled something at the back of her heel slipping on wet grass and was acutely lame. I hand walked her home several miles, wrapped the fetlock for a week, gave her stall rest, and she made a full recovery. No vet care. I guess I looked at an anatomy chart because my notes to self from then that I found (on the fly leaf of an old horse first aid book) said “digital tendon sprain??” But I wonder now if it was, because she recovered so fast and so completely. She did have a very deep bedded stall, a foot of shavings over concrete.

Anyhow, I haven’t had any experience with acute soft tissue injury as an adult so no idea what the current best practice is.

But for hooves, it’s padding/ soft footing.

I haven’t dealt with full blown laminitis either, but I’ve gone down the barefoot trimmer rabbit hole, including a Pete Ramey 2 day clinic, and rehabbing founder is a huge part of what interests that world. So I know more theoretically about managing laminitis and founder. What I do know more hands on is abscesses! Barefoot horses and a wet climate.