Our little treasure, woape, is poorly - see thread below:
www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?489797-Tired-or-Something-Worse
This part of the world has nowhere near the experience of dealing with PH/QH muscle diseases, which recent blood tests have showed, so I am reaching out hoping that somebody can provide / suggest a contact I could have a chat with. PSSM1 test was negative, as was GBED.
As ever, many thanks…
Carl
Thanks for the reply Nootka. He doesn’t seem to have had any spasms/tremors as such…or sweating or breathing issues…
His dam is Smiling Little Klara (APH 768472) and the sire is April Doc Bony (QH 5276763).
I’m sorry if this has been asked before, but did you ever look at his Selenium and Vitamin E levels? Low Se can cause tying up and “white muscle disease”:
http://www.bendequine.com/documents/Selenium.pdf
More info: https://www.google.com/search?q=white+muscle+disease&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=white+muscle+disease+horse
Thanks Simkie, appreciate that.
One lady at the site is an animal nutritionist, she was actually present during the episode two weeks back when woape was almost unable to stand / walk and immediately suggested selenium and magnesium as a supplement - we started with that right away - this part of the world is known to have low concentrations of it in the soil and she has many clients with horses who require selenium supplements.
His sire has no lines to Impressive, but I can’t find his dam’s pedigree. If she doesn’t have Impressive on her pedigree, it can’t be HYPP.
Here is a partial pedigree for the dam: http://sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10821508
I don’t know much about it, but is it conclusive that there’s a blood abnormality pointing to muscle myopathy? What exactly did his bloodwork show? There’s no chance it could be something else neurological like Wobbler’s or EPM, or an injury of some kind?
oldernewbie, thank you, appreciate you taking the time.
His dam is a paint horse, named as above…unfortunately, we cannot reach the owner…moved away from area…
Highflyer, many thanks.
The blood tests were sent via scan to us (it is not in English, so my wife will have to translate). I was told that twice, in separate tests, results indicated muscle issue (myopathy). Tomorrow, shall go through it with my wife and somebody who understands it and then will update the thread.
Regarding neurological disorders, we have contacted somebody this evening who focuses on that at the equine hospital over here…and the vet did some basic testing today (tail and neck turns etc) which appeared OK.
That’s good news, at least!
Fingers crossed for you that it is something that can be resolved with diet changes.
Where are you located?
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Near Prague, Czech Republic.
https://www.aqha.com/genetictesting Lists the standard 5 panel test given to QHs here. Were all the muscle related tests run on your horse?
PSSM1 has been ruled out, but not PSSM2.
Many things can look like selenium issues, but because his feet and mane/tail have been unaffected, I would not think that’s the issue. Regardless, it would be wise to test his blood level. It doesn’t matter, to some degree, what’s in the soil and therefore the forage - what matters is what’s in his body.
I agree 100% with JB–a selenium and vitamin e test is easy and a good box to check. Were he mine, I’d want to know where his levels are for sure. Perhaps he’s not absorbing selenium via his food, or he’s so low that it’s not enough. And from what I’ve read about white muscle disease, it does not always present with hoof and hair issues.
And it would be something very easy to remedy 
Are you also supplementing vitamin E?
Her dam has Impressive breeding. If you look at Boston Jillee, her sire is Impressive Boston, who was a grandson of Impressive.
the five panel test is a really good idea. Not sure if you can do it from Europe but AQHA is really helpful if you call them.
Could still have PSSM2 even if the PSSM1 test was negative. Is the horse on a low NSC diet ?
We have the PSSM1 and GBED tests here, which have been done and returned negative. Germany has the other three from the standard test and those are being processed.
PSSM2 is something I have kept in mind too. And we also need a test of his se and vit E levels.
Since the bad episode two weeks back, he has not had any grass, carrots etc so sugars/starch have been cut out. The animal nutritionist also gave us some cinnamon and ginger which is to lower the sugars - this is something she has for many clients.
woape’s sire, April Doc Bony, was 5-panel tested and everything was negative.
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WOAPE if this is the case you do need to test for HYPP. Best to rule it out along with everything else
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