When does linebred become inbred?
Ten Pin Strike is a local tb for sale, decent conformation, sound, been a trail horse for the past few years. Considering him as a potential eventing prospect. However, his pedigree made me pause.
Share your COTH wisdom!
I don’t have any great love for Mr. Prospector, but I’ve certAInly seen much worse. Since he is an '09 and already restarted, I wouldn’t worry about it, and just evaluate the horse himself.
Registered name is Tenpin Strike. http://www.pedigreequery.com/tenpin+strike. I don’t see a problem if he didn’t get the Mr. P front legs. You can’t breed a gelding.
3x3 is as close as I’d ever go, but it doesn’t particularly worry me. Look at the horse in front of you. Smart Strike isn’t a bad source of Mr P, imo. No experience with Miesques Son, but Miesque was a darn nice mare.
As I’ve heard said: if it works, it’s line-bred; if it doesn’t, it’s in-bred. I’d judge the horse in front of you.
I really like the pedigree. Of course, pedigrees of race-bred TBs are all speculative for sport and you have to evaluate the horse in front of you, yada yada yada…
I have my own, personal theory on Mr. P’s brilliant success. I think Mr. P has one of the most diverse populations of offspring in modern times because he didn’t regularly stamp his get with a physical type. Sure, some looked like little clones of him. But so many others were carbon copies of their dams/broodmare sires and displayed very little Mr. P influence. Gone West was all Secretariat, Fappiano was all Dr. Fager, Gulch was all Rambunctious, Machiavellian showed a lot of Halo, etc. etc.
When crossing dissimilar Mr. P lines, I speculate not a lot of genetic information is duplicated, because Mr. P physical traits never seem to resurface generations later in those instances.
Smart Strike and Miesque’s Son couldn’t be more different from one another. Smart Strike is almost all Classy 'N Smart; that family really stamps their horses, regardless of the sire. Tenpins also shows almost no “Mr P” characteristics IMO.
Miesque’s Son inherited a lot of Mr. P influence in type (which is funny, because his full brother Kingmambo did not). Miesque’s Son also has had success siring horses who handle the heavy European turf and even some horses who have won over jumps in Europe.
I’ve never heard anyone complain about doubling up on Nodouble in an event prospect, that’s for sure. And the Euros and Australians have shattered any concerns I may have had about too many crosses to Northern Dancer; they have put forth some incredible specimens breeding Northern Dancer over Northern Dancer ten times over.
All this rambling is to say I’d be poking and prodding at the horse in person to decide if he’s sound enough to make an event prospect, not worrying about his paper. I hope it works out for you!
You got plenty of other very nicely regarded and unrelated ancestors on there and Mr P is a great grandsire on both sides, not anything closer. And those great grandmas his fame allowed him to cover are no slouches, both very fashionable bred, one was positively spectacular on the track.
Much as some get too wrapped up in famous track names in race pedigrees and decide to buy before actually physically looking at a sport horse prospect, some dwell too much on alleged negatives based solely on paper and internet influence ending up missing out on good prospects, especially if they are already let down and doing something else successfully.
Go look at and try the horse with an open mind and eye for attitude and soundness. Forget the paper.
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