Pegasus World . . .

[PeteyPie]

[QUOTE=Alice;9028351]
Sorry, a bit OT - did anyone catch the name of the Aftercare program that was in a commercial during the NBC coverage?

I was really impressed that Aftercare rated network airtime![/QUOTE]

It was TAA, Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance.

Here is a commercial from the Breeder’s Cup (I couldn’t find the one which aired for the Pegasus and this one seems shorter):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtndR0fBsUs

I think this accreditation program is a great idea:
http://www.thoroughbredaftercare.org/thoroughbred-aftercare-alliance-announces-accredited-organizations-for-2016/

[danceronice]

[QUOTE=Kim;9028597]
Why “begrudgingly”?

I am a huge AP fan, but that does not stop me from being a fan of Keen Ice.[/QUOTE]

Can’t speak for Zevida but Arrogate just does nothing for me. Not his connections. It might be I do care about the spring classics so the underwhelming performance by those horses plus him being babied along just leave me cold.

[dressagetraks]

Given his size, he may have needed that extra time and may have broken down or not reached his potential if pushed for the classics. I think it’s good to see a horse given more time if he needs. Kind of like Zenyatta; take her from the barn she was in and put her with a few other trainers I could think of, and yes, I’m sure you would have seen her on the scene earlier and in bigger races sooner, but I doubt she would have been as good or lasted as long.

[Where_sMyWhite]

To be cautious, Taylor Made conducted X-rays of the knee and found no injury, according to Taylor Made’s Duncan Taylor.

In fact, as it has after every California Chrome race, Taylor Made conducted a full set of X-rays and the champion is all clear.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/219494/healthy-california-chrome-settles-in-at-taylor-made

[Drvmb1ggl3]

> RainyDayRide [INDENT]Per Taylor Made.. no sign of a chip..

video of Chrome at Taylor Made. I believe that is the first time CC has seen snow.

http://www.worldsrichestracehorse.com/video.html
[/INDENT]

Godamn it, he’s NOT the world’s richest racehorse. He might not even be in the top 10.
I wish they’d stop with this crap.

[Drvmb1ggl3]

babied along

He was a huge late developing horse. He wasn’t “babied”. They waited until he was ready. That’s usually considered good horsemanship.

[Lord_Helpus]

I read that Taylor Made had a full set of x-rays taken after every race. Damn, that horse must glow in the dark!

I cannot even imagine how much his insurance costs. Jumpers are at about 3%. I bet racehorses are in the 8% - 10% range. If he is valued at ??? say $20,000,000 then the premiums would be $2,000,000 a year. Whew!!

Hopefully Art Sherman will be able to do something with the nice horses he got from BB.

[Alice]

Thank you PeteyPie!

[Glimmerglass]

From the business end of things:

Decent wagering although far below what the BCC generated. Not sure if they’re happy with amount all things considering with paying for TV and the media investments plus intentionally capped in-person attendance.

http://www.drf.com/news/total-handle-pegasus-world-cup-was-1568-million

Total handle on the $12 million Pegasus World Cup on Saturday at Gulfstream Park in Florida was $15.68 million when including all multi-race wagers that ended with this race, according to Equibase’s official chart.

The handle figure far exceeds the $3.1 million bet on last year’s Donn Handicap, a longtime Gulfstream wintertime stakes race that was canceled this year because its conditions resembled those of the Pegasus. But the handle was also well below that of the $28.2 million bet on the 2016 Breeders’ Cup Classic, which, like the Pegasus, also featured California Chrome and Arrogate.

TV ratings were better than the Breeders’ Cup

NBC Sports 90-minute broadcast of the race [4:30-6pm EST] peaked at a 1.23 overnight rating, which exceeded the overnight rating for the 2016 Breeders’ Cup Classic.

How many people watched it? Well meaning 1.23% of the total viewers watching tv at that time tuned in. Without knowing the total audience size the % is hard to determine if its meaningful.

[Where_sMyWhite]

Given it was a new race format, I’m not sure I think it should have been expected to top BC’s audience and handle (which is 2 days and a larger card and more established).

For me, it will be a ‘how does it do in the next few years’ once the novelty part of the new format has worn off and it needs to stand on its own merits. I thought this year was fairly respectable given the newness.

[SnicklefritzG]

How is it determined how many people are watching a program?

[snaffle1987]

if it wasn’t arrogate vs California chrome; you can expect those tv ratings to plummet.its the only reason people tuned in to see it.

[Glimmerglass]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;9029639]
How is it determined how many people are watching a program?[/QUOTE]

The measuring company (e.g. Nielson as an example) determines that with extrapolating data. I cannot find the published numbers for the time the PWC aired; the peak viewing is prime time so at the 6:00pm EST time it may have been ~10M …

Below is that evening’s detail showing how the % needs to be presented relative to the size.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-saturday-jan-28-2017/

Regarding the wagering citing before with the PWC and Breeders’ Cup both dollar amounts are strictly for the single marquee race. Not the entire day’s card.

[Where_sMyWhite]

Interesting article on BH that the reported time for the Pegasus might be “slow”. Re-clocks of the race show Arrogate fairly close to the track record.

Sounds like both the Pegasus and the Poseidon times are going to be reviewed and checked.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/219514/experts-believe-pegasus-time-should-be-faster

[Where_sMyWhite]

Pegasus has been “re-timed” with time lowered to 1:46.83 which is a new dirt track record for the 1 1/8.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/219578/pegasus-final-time-lowered-to-a-track-record

Beyer also re-adjusted from 119 to 116.

[cloudyandcallie]

I was not a big Chrome fan, but I wanted him to win his last race and go out a winner.

[skydy]

I liked Arrogate in the Pegasus but was sorry to see C.Chrome go out on such a lackluster note. Glad he’s fine, he didn’t look lame post race.

[smoofox]

Arrgh. The irritation I feel about a certain group of Chromies on Facebook who have had their own version of reality and assorted conspiracy theories to share and applaud reached a peak post-Pegasus. There are a few posters there who are knowledgeable about horses and racing and try to set them straight on a lot of their nonsense - a valiant and futile effort. I got blocked for pointing out that all horses ship overseas in “containers” - no matter how valuable they are - and supplied a link to a company a friend works at a that does the shipping. The page owner pitched fit and blocked me and many others. Darling Chromie is not a normal horse and should have a plane all to himself!

But all that aside, they were going on and on about how he was asking them for help in the post parade and as loading began - they could see it in his eyes as he knew they loved him. They also all agreed that he was dead lame and dragging his poor leg (they varied on which leg it was) and how inhumane everyone was that they saw a staggering horse and forced him to race!! But select Chromies knew better from their living rooms with their remote in hand.

Now at least he is off to stand at Taylor Made and they can no longer be armchair jockeys, trainers and vets.

A couple of them were looking forward to seeing video and pictures of him “running free with his band of mares”… yeah, um… no.

[skydy]

Yes, a strange bunch of non-horsey people for some reason became quite obsessed by and fixated on, a racehorse. They’ve been at it for a few years now haven’t they?

I know that there are well adjusted non-horsey people who enjoy watching TBs race. Such people do exist. Apparently not many, but I have non-horsey friends who enjoy watching the televised races.

I am perplexed as to why this particular horse really brought out the :eek: crazies.

[danceronice]

[QUOTE=skydy;9036177]

I am perplexed as to why this particular horse really brought out the :eek: crazies.[/QUOTE]

The loonies finally accepted Barbaro’s dead and moved on to a live one? (There’s one I never understood the crazy fans.)