Performance Equine Nutrition Mag Restore

[LadyB]

Has anyone tried Performance Equine Nutrition Mag Restore?

Reviews look good but I never fully trust reviews on their own websites. Curious about experiences.

Mare is an 8 y/o OTTB, weaves and gets impatient easily. Easily spooking as well. I know she needs her confidence built, but was hoping to find some way to just take a bit of the edge off as we bring her into work. She sat out in a field for the last 4 years, so its understandable that she’s herd bound and on edge about everything that she encounters. I know bringing her into work and just getting used to everything in life will be good and take some adjusting, but would like to help her out a little.

[Dark_horse17]

Their website sure says all the right things, right?

I just bought some and started it 3 days ago on my 15-year old Warmblood who has exhibited classic anxiety behaviors: he weaves, paces in the paddock even with a buddy, can’t stand still, seems sensitive to the touch, mouthy, occasionally has issues moving out and using his back during work.

As I understand it, the supplement will only “work” if there is indeed a deficiency. I purchased the 10-day trial and got free shipping, so for me, the $30ish dollar investment is worth it. I’ll let you know how it goes.

[Jungle_Monkey]

@LadyB

Has anyone tried Performance Equine Nutrition Mag Restore?

Reviews look good but I never fully trust reviews on their own websites. Curious about experiences.

Mare is an 8 y/o OTTB, weaves and gets impatient easily. Easily spooking as well. I know she needs her confidence built, but was hoping to find some way to just take a bit of the edge off as we bring her into work. She sat out in a field for the last 4 years, so its understandable that she’s herd bound and on edge about everything that she encounters. I know bringing her into work and just getting used to everything in life will be good and take some adjusting, but would like to help her out a little.

I’ve had some good results with it over other magnesium supplements. I also liked their Focus product. Confidence Eq has been great. I feed 1/3 of a packet between both nostrils instead of the recommended entire packet, makes it cost effective and works the same I found.

http://www.perfectproductseq.com/products/perfect-prep-eq-sane-sound-2/ This stuff was awesome with my spooky, reactive, hates the cold mare this past winter.

[LadyB]

Thank you, Its definitely worth trying to see if she has a deficiency, I do know that its not meant for all horses and only if they have a deficiency, but totally worth trying. Only issue is, I’m in Canada, so I have to pay more because of our shitty exchange rate. So something that’s a 45 day supple and $25, is going to cost me double, I hopefully can get free shipping on top of that. Woman at my barn is currently using it and loves it.

[Jungle_Monkey]

I’m in Canada as well. I ship it to the UPS Store in Ogdensburg and then pick it up with other things I like from the US.

[Encourage]

I haven’t tried mag restore, but I did use Quiessence which did well for my gelding and it’s available in Canada.

[Blkarab]

I just finished up the trial with my Arab mare, and I’m not sure I noticed much of a difference. I had better results with the regular Smartcalm pellets.

[J-Lu]

I tried MagRestore with my extremely spooky and nervous 4 year old warmblood. I thought it was working in the short term but it really didn’t work in the long term. I’ve heard it works well with some horses. Training and maturation really helped my horse. Also, I accept that he’ll always be spooky and nervous in some situations, but he handles it a thousand times better now and I handle him a thousand times better.

[Gloria]

I had started to use it on my young horse as a last resort. He exhibits some of the signs listed on the website, bucking and balking after work starts, and only gets progressively worse. He has tremor all over, especially around his shoulder area. Lunging only gets worse. I know this is not an attitude issue because I raised him and have worked with him extensively on the ground. This horse is incredibly willing so all the horrible under saddle work baffle me.

I can’t say this Magrestore was “it” that fixed the issue. There isn’t sufficient scientific evidence to prove or disapprove it, but something is different. I used to get apprehensive getting on him because he can blow up out of nowhere. Now he seems more relaxed, and focused. He can use his body better. Bending is no longer a battle. He just seems more… comfortable. I no longer lunge him before I get on. I feel I have my sweet boy back.

[walkinthewalk]

It has worked miracles on my Tennessee Walker. Unbelievable difference to the good in him being calm, much more willing to comply, softness in his eyes that wasn’t there before.

An added benefit for him, is the MarRestore appears to be controlling his environmental allergies. This is the third Spring I haven’t had to put him on an herbal compound to control his allergies. I went the drug route with him long ago and it was not a pretty sight.

Mag Restore is magnesium Malate and more easily as bored into the system than the more common magnesium oxide found in other products:)

[sdlbredfan]

Re: post number 9 from Gloria that mentioned a horse balking and ‘He has tremor all over, especially around his shoulder area.’
makes me think there could be a physical issue. Have you already had this horse evaluated for any of the polysaccharide storage myopathies, that can inhibit muscle function. If you have not, that would be a good idea, IMO.

[Gloria]

@sdlbredfan

Re: post number 9 from Gloria that mentioned a horse balking and ‘He has tremor all over, especially around his shoulder area.’
makes me think there could be a physical issue. Have you already had this horse evaluated for any of the polysaccharide storage myopathies, that can inhibit muscle function. If you have not, that would be a good idea, IMO.

sdlbredfan, I believe there is some kind of physical issue too. Just not sure what it is. My regular vet has looked at him (more like annual overall examination,) but does not find anything alarming. But again this vet is good with acute trauma. His other areas are kind of lacking. I’m not familiar with polysaccharide storage myopathies, so no, I have never had him evaluated for it. Is this something that can be done by a regular vet? Or is this something I need to take him to a specialist?

[sdlbredfan]

Here are some links. There is more than one form of it. If I recall correctly, the affected horses do best on a low sugar/low starch, higher fat diet than the average horse.

https://cvm.msu.edu/directory/valberg
She is the leading researccher on these disorders:
https://cvm.msu.edu/news/2015/dr-stephanie-valberg-named-mary-anne-mcphail-dressage-chair-in-equine-sports-medicine
She previously was in Minnesota but now is in Michigan

Other useful links:
http://www.animalgenetics.us/Equine/Genetic_Disease/PSSM.asp
https://cvm.msu.edu/research/faculty-research/valberg-laboratory/type-1-polysaccharide-storage-myopathy
https://cvm.msu.edu/research/faculty-research/valberg-laboratory/type-2-polysaccharide-storage-myopathy
http://www.equinews.com/article/update-pssm-horses

Good luck, and keep us posted.

[SaratogaTB]

My 11 yo OTTB was having symptoms late this winter that seemed consistent with a magnesium deficiency. My usually calm sweet boy got spooky and nervous for no apparent reason, and a bit sensitive to the touch. After about 5 days on MagRestore I noticed quite a difference. He’s much more his old self. I’m guessing that a magnesium deficiency would be at its worst in the winter. I will note that he doesn’t like the taste of the pellets, but has gotten used to it. I mix it with some chopped forage and he ends up eventually eating it all. I’m going to keep him on a maintenance dose for a while.

[JB]

Magnesium supplements seem to be like joint supplements. Even the “best” one doesn’t work for all horses, either well, or at all.

I know a couple folks who tried MagRestore (while choking down the cost) and it didn’t do a thing, and where they could have assumed the issue wasn’t a magnesium issue, they decided to try another product. I wish I could remember what they used - wasn’t the same one as the other. They weren’t magnesium malate though. I think one was actually magnesium oxide, and the other…not sure. Anyway, both horses improved on their respective supplements.

And on the flip side, there are horses who haven’t responded to anything but the malate form.

So it’s up to you whether to try this.

What’s her diet? Many OTTB/STBs come off the track deficient in B1 because of high sugar diets. and even if the new diet is lower NSC, they may never have caught back up. That’s really easy to test, as not only is a small container cheap, but any improvements are likely to be seen in a week or 2, compared to potentially many weeks with Mg.

[scrbear11]

I had great luck with MagRestore. I used it for my mare who is a bit of a hot-head. However, I switched to Uckele Bioplex Magnesium, which is also very effective. I switched to Uckele because of the cost of MagRestore. You cannot beat the customer service of Performance Equine Nutrition though. Wonderful, helpful, and very knowledgeable.

[Hermein]

I use it for soothing my savage beasts and as a “maybe” for a guard against laminitis.* MagRestore is the type of magnesium (malate iirc) that is most easily absorbed, so the absorption sort of makes up for the price. It takes truckloads of mag ox to get the results of MagRestore. I’ve used it for a long, long time.

*The “savage beasts” are a couple of horses who do NOT want their back feet trimmed and are very expressive about it. :eek: I also have a couple of horses that get sore feet if they graze mid-day w/o wearing grazing muzzles ( or started out wearing grazing muzzles and rubbed them off asap). FWIW, I was reading just today that most hay is way off re: calcium to magnesium ratio.

Here’s the source on calcium/magnesium–http://gettyequinenutrition.biz/Library/Howtointerpretyourhayanalysisreport.htm
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Scroll down to the bottom, although the rest is interesting as well. Evidently, there’s a way to add a link that I don’t know.