Rusticus is with John Michael Durr (currently in FL) and is doing the jumpers. He is still available for breeding.
I was going to suggest Navarone too. He has thrown some FEI Eventers and goes well with TB mares. He looks like he would cross well with yours. You also get top top character and trainability. He and his babies are good for anyone to train and ride, yet they have the talent.
I love Navarone, his offspring are gorgeous.
i also have seen a ton of Ramiro Bs that seem easy to work with and have tons of talent. He would be on my list if I wanted to breed an eventer. I think Judy Yancey has a LFG for his semen.
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I want to thank everyone so much for their suggestions, and I credit COTH for sending me down avenues that led me to my choice! And honestly, my choice was very much personal on what I think will pair nicely with my mare given her strengths along with my kid dreams of having a horse from a specific line. I think Iāve made a choice that meets both! There are so many other factors that need to play out right, even after just getting my maiden mare to catch! But, I am really, really excited to at least have made a stallion choice, confirmed availability in the states, and now I just need to say when to ship! (I hope I donāt jinx this, but Iām so excited)
Weāre going to try with Candy De Nantuel.
This was the first stallion that I saw with Quidam de Revel on both the top and bottom sides. By Luidam and out of a Diamant de Semilly mare, Thara Nantuel who had a good showjumping career herself. Heās 53% blood, 16.2, and I liked his big rangy movement. He is quite young, but I was impressed enough with his pedigree and general impression.
Iāve attached pedigree and some links to enjoy! Again, thank you or feel free to keep discussing!
pedigree
https://www.horsetelex.com/horses/peā¦ndy-de-nantuel
http://www.newnormandyfarm.com/candy-de-nantuel.html
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Interesting choice for eventing. I donāt see rangy movement. I see a compact knee popping up in the air style. Doesnāt kill the jump, makes it springy, but not the freely forward scopey style that can gallop effortlessly.
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Seems to me that for a true 5* competitor, there are two essentials: a good brain, and a good gallop. An up and down and/or ground pounding gallop is exhausting, and I believe that the gallop was why Ballynoe Castle RM had such problems with WEG/Games/European 4* XC courses. Honestly, if I were breeding for eventing, the first thing that I would demand is a decent, if not exceptional, gallop, because once the gallop is gone, the horse is limited in its competitiveness. Itās not such an issue on short courses, or CCIs at the old 3* or below, but IMO, itās the horse maker for the old 4*. Show jumpers donāt need a gallop at all, so they arenāt bred for it.
I just watched the video, and agree wholeheartedly with babecakes.
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Upsilon for AA
Upsilon is Holsteiner x AA.
i dont care for him kicking at the camera man at all. think you can do better.
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The poster is referring to Beaulieuās Coolman. FWIW, I have worked with about six of his offspring now. One thing, I have noticed is it really depends on the dam with him - two of the ones I worked with were full siblings and under 16h but not petite - the others were all north of 17h and full of substance.
I believe one of Dennyās is competing Prelim/Intermediate (Cordi). She would be at least in her teens by now, since she was a two year old when I worked there. He had three while I was working for him. None of them were what I would describe as petite, though Cordi is on the smaller side in terms of height.
Back to OP ā
If you like QdR, my favorite is Quite Easy.
Nice mare. You did not ask for it, but my commentary on her pedigree - another thread asked about what happens when you linebreed heavily ā and I think this mare proves why linebreeding to ND+Mr P is not bad for sport - ND seems to consistently make elastic movers when he is linebred like this, and Mr P really shows by the quality of the mare he is bred to. Utopia btw is a very nice stallion, I have seen a few of his offspring very similar to type to your mare.
BFNE is right about the blooded horses usually being that way because the breeders were trying to refine a heftier line. If I were you I might look at a stallion that capitalizes the good in your mare already (vs breeding for improvement on what youāve said your mare needs improvement on) only because, the stallions that tend to improve the things you say your mare needs improvement, usually do so at the cost of the things you say your mare has already, mainly the gallop.
Iād look at Quite Easy and see if you like his type. Diarado or, possibly even Future Gravitas (who has been a favorite of mine for a long time) although, maybe not FG because he would make your mare straighter behind.
ETA: I did not realize there was a second page. Reading up on it, I agree with Viney and goodpony and babecakes in that there are more suitable options for your particular goal. He looks like a lovely stallion for the french mare base. The French horses need very different type to breed to than USA horses do - he may be a refiner for French but I donāt believe he will be the ārefinerā the way you are looking for. I also do not like his canter for eventing and see him more as an SJ type.
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Thank you for your comments. Iām pretty satisfied with my choice and very excited.I do appreciate the comments and completely understand the inquiry. One of the winning factors for me was the dam line. The dam, a very lovely type, competed up through the 1.4m level by Diamant de Semilly, who Iāve consistently liked. I researched the dam a good bit, and I like what I see in this stallionās pedigree for what I want. I also followed closely at what lines are topping the WBFSH list. So for me personally, itās what I want to add, the power and show-jumping genes, but keep the blood % which will mark right at the 75% mark.
And, as much as Iāve had discussions on type versus %'s,
Iām at least for now, going to stick with my numbers. Iāll respectfully bow out though, as of course I like my stallion choice and and spent more than a few hours watching film and crunching statistics to get to this guy. It will be very interesting to see in a few years, what weāve got!
Cheers!
You might not know this but the blood percentage can be pretty disingenuous - Candy is ~50% blood but he will not produce like he is half TB. The most recent TB ancestry in his pedigree is six generations back. The position of the TB in a pedigree matters in eventing; the proven formula seems to be 50-75% blood with recent blood infusion which, Candy has none.
So, it might work given your mare is full TB, but if you want to hedge your bets in your favor, you might want to go with a proven eventing sire over a freshman.
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Pick more than one sire. So you have your first choice. Now work on your second and third choice. Since you are breeding with frozenā¦make sure you have a good choice lined up for fresh cool. You never really know about semen quality or how your mare will take to it.
I have bred to QdR sons before. Itās interesting your experience has been they are easy as most Iāve dealt with have been quirky in contactā¦but dang they can jump. So that likely is a good line for what you want to improve. I do like the QdR x Diamant de Semilly. That seems to be quite a successful nick. There are I believe one or two in the US tooā¦for a fresh choice. I liked Diamant de Quidam enough that I had looked around for some fresh choices similarly bred. Good Luck!!
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I think she meant to get in more AA blood. Especially with breeding to a TB. That would be a good cross with the right TB. Iām considering Bonaparte N AA for one of my WB crossesā¦but apparently people havenāt had great luck getting mares to settle. Iām going to take a gamble that my vet is quite good and give it a go. Upsilon is on my list as well.
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I see Normandy Farm is going to be offering Contendro I ? I wonder what type and % of blood of mares he has been making successful eventers with?
Thereās some analysis out there as he is the top of the WBSFH board. To me, I donāt put a ton of stock in those boards as one or two really successful offspring can skew results. But Contendro I is obviously an excellent sire and has been available in the US for a while. He has produced some very good event horses (so has his sire)ā¦ the better ones IMO were out of high blood mares.
The Holsteiner Verband is standing a gorgeous AA. Iād think he might be a very good choice for an eventing TB mare. His name is Hermes dāAuthieux.
[URL=āhttps://www.holsteiner-verband.de/en/hengsthaltung/unsere-hengste/hengstuebersicht/fra00195478636y_v?hsLang=enā]https://www.holsteiner-verband.de/en...6y_v?hsLang=en
He has a son mare named Oiseau dāIvraie out of an AA marewho looks quite nice on this video at www.pro-stallions.com.
The French Pro-stallions site is a compilation of stallion videos which could give hours of eye candy.
I thought I would share an update! Iāve completed my order, and hopefully in about a month and a half, two months, I can share a foal announcement! I did end up changing my decision, but I didnāt jump very far in pedigree as Iāve been really stuck on pedigree. In the lesser fortunate situation, she doesnāt catch have some backup.
I just order a younger stallion, Diamant de Quidam . So very similar in breeding to my earlier pick. I did go a touch lower in blood, but I was overall more impressed with this stallionās way of going and build paired with my mare.
https://www.horsetelex.com/horses/pedigree/1579090/diamant-de-quidam
I would suggest Askari if you can do frozen. Or Chacco Blue II but that one may be too big. Hirtentanz is another one people
forget about but a lovely lovely horse. Perhaps Flexible depending on her confirmation. Quintender is an absolute favorite & would do very well with a TB mare. I saw him at PS and his gallop was so so lovely, a perfect type, gorgeous mover. He is leggy though, but not a Mack truck like Chacco Blue.
I bred my oversized mare to Diego Dolphin (Connie/Primitive Rising) and am breeding her to Carrasca Z this year. He isnāt huge either. I have found it very difficult to find smaller stallions in the US, so you are lucky to be able to do frozen. After these two guys well, Iām not sure what Iāll do.
Quidam Blue is a US option & a lovely mover.
Whoops I mean Araldik. But Askari would also work 
