I picked up some canned, Evanger, pheasant, food for the dogs today, to mix a small amount in with their kibble, to keep things interesting. They were HUGE fans.
No wonder, I looked at the ingredients and it’s pretty much pheasant and water, good stuff.
The interesting thing was that the can says it is “Certified Kosher for Passover”, by the Chicago Rabbinical Council.
Do people really have pets keep Kosher or is this a marketing gimick? Or, are people possibly eating this canned pheasant?
LOL that’s hilarious! I have no idea!!
For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t eat it; as far as I’m aware, game birds aren’t required to be kept to any USDA standards. I made chucker kebabs last year after some hunting training days and then second guessed that decision…they were good, but I’m not sure what they are fed and not positive I’d want to eat it. I know a lot of game birds are fed medicated feed to minimize flock diseases and not sure I’d be comfortable eating them without knowing exactly what antibiotics went into them before they were shot. 
In our area, at least, pheasants are raised and stocked, and don’t survive the season.
Well, my guess would be if you aren’t allowed to wear pigskin , you wouldn’t want to accidentally touch pork (while getting it out of the can). Plus if you fed your cat/dog on plates and put in the dishwasher. Heck truly kosher kitchens have two sets of dishwashers , sinks, plates knives etc so dairy doesn’t touch meat.
Pork would be more upsetting.
I asked a friend what would happen if you used the “wrong” knife (dairy knife on meat food) thinking it would be very expensive to throw things away.
He said you could bury it under earth for a year and then it would be considered “clean”.
I still don’t know if he was pulling my leg on that.
Episcopalian Replying Based on Knowledge I Have Gained
The following is to the best of my knowledge, from my reading and other learning; I hope an Orthodox Jewish COTHer will read this and correct anything I have gotten wrong.
If you keep a kosher kitchen, then during Passover (or any other time) you can handle the container, the food in it, any utensils used to serve it, and the dish you feed it in, and can wash them with your other meat dishes and utensils.
Chall, your friend was not pulling your leg.
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LOL that’s hilarious! I have no idea!!
For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t eat it; as far as I’m aware, game birds aren’t required to be kept to any USDA standards. I made chukar kebabs last year after some hunting training days and then second guessed that decision…they were good, but I’m not sure what they are fed and not positive I’d want to eat it. I know a lot of game birds are fed medicated feed to minimize flock diseases and not sure I’d be comfortable eating them without knowing exactly what antibiotics went into them before they were shot.
In our area, at least, pheasants are raised and stocked, and don’t survive the season.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that if they knew you were going to hunt the birds they withdrew medicated feed for the proper amount of time. I’m pretty sure most people don’t use medicated feed all the time, either.
Just wanted to say thanks for mentioning Evanger’s. My JRT seems to only be able to eat feathered protein food and I’m sure he’s tired of duck, chicken, and turkey, so I ordered him the pheasant to try.
I had a friend growing up whose whole family kept kosher & they did not allow non-Kosher food in the kitchen. They were careful what & how they fed their pets, but I didn’t pay enough attention to know what brand it was. I could certainly see them purchasing that to make everything easier.
Its likely more about not handling non Kosher foodstuffs in the house (risk of contamination) than anything else.
It wouldn’t shock me.
I worked at a high-end pet store in a wealthy area in high school, and quite a lot of people would come in asking for vegetarian dog and cat food because they don’t believe in using animals for food.
Perhaps even sadder, vegetarian dog and cat food exists.
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It wouldn’t shock me.
I worked at a high-end pet store in a wealthy area in high school, and quite a lot of people would come in asking for vegetarian dog and cat food because they don’t believe in using animals for food.
Perhaps even sadder, vegetarian dog and cat food exists.[/QUOTE]
One is diet preference related, the other is religious belief and practice. There is no similarity.
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I would imagine that if they knew you were going to hunt the birds they withdrew medicated feed for the proper amount of time. I’m pretty sure most people don’t use medicated feed all the time, either.[/QUOTE]
I would like to believe that, but I don’t know. Lots of quail and chuckar are used in hunting competition and as far as I know - there are no standards for feeding them…probably because they are not anticipated to be “food” for people. Stocked pheasants, maybe different…that’s a good question. I wonder if DEC regulates how they are fed before they are released. They are raised by all kinds of different people and groups - including 4H clubs.
I agree with those who point out the need to know, in an orthodox , kosher home, that all food items at safe and the utensils that are used and the handling fall in to line with expectations.
I imagine that those who keep kosher either made their own food, to be sure, or simply did not keep pets.
Kosher goes beyond ingredients and extends to the slaughter and inspection of the animals. The pheasants in this product are not hunted birds but rather hand reared and hand slaughtered. The rabbis who inspect kosher meats are not just people who drive to the facility and inspect. They live in place and have ritual life and cleaning before the slaughter and inspection. Birds can be eliminated for any sign of disease , injury and disability. It is one reason Kosher chickens often have smaller breast meat. The big breasted chickens often have tendon lesions in the legs from supporting their weight.
One is diet preference related, the other is religious belief and practice. There is no similarity.
you sure about that? talked to any actual vegans/vegetarians lately?
This was 20 years ago so hopefully things have advanced somewhat, but I knew a family who got a GSD pup and fed her a kosher diet. They stunted her growth badly.
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This was 20 years ago so hopefully things have advanced somewhat, but I knew a family who got a GSD pup and fed her a kosher diet. They stunted her growth badly.[/QUOTE]
Then chances are there were other factors at play rather than just keeping a kosher diet.
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It wouldn’t shock me.
I worked at a high-end pet store in a wealthy area in high school, and quite a lot of people would come in asking for vegetarian dog and cat food because they don’t believe in using animals for food.
Perhaps even sadder, vegetarian dog and cat food exists.[/QUOTE]
So far as I know vegetarian/vegan dog food exists and can at least in theory keep a dog healthy. Cat food does not. Cats are obligate carnivores- they must have meat.
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Then chances are there were other factors at play rather than just keeping a kosher diet.[/QUOTE]
I also highly doubt that the dog’s problem was that it couldn’t mix milk and meat or eat lobster.
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Then chances are there were other factors at play rather than just keeping a kosher diet.[/QUOTE]
The point I was making - it was 20 years ago, so their options and resources were rather limited in terms of learning how to raise their puppy on a balanced, nutritious, kosher diet.
The pup came from a very reputable breeding program (not naming them as I think they’re still in existence); they spent a few years on this breeder’s wait list. It’s not as though they bought a puppy mill GSD with all of the usual genetic issues.
She ended up about 2/3 the size of the average GSD bitch at maturity. Sweet girl, though.
Why were their options and resources limited? It was only 20 years ago. Kosher beef and chicken existed back then (as they did millennia ago); there was no reason they couldn’t feed her meat sold for human consumption (unless laws of kashrut forbid this).
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So far as I know vegetarian/vegan dog food exists and can at least in theory keep a dog healthy. Cat food does not. Cats are obligate carnivores- they must have meat.[/QUOTE]
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