Pomeranian or papillon?

A friend had show quality Papillons, and only one of the herd (they had six or so retired show dogs, that they used for agility, and obedience) was barky. One also didn’t like strangers messing with him very much, and had a huge regard for his personal space (a little snappy with pushy people).

I think a lot of the problems is that Paps, and Poms were popular for a while, and they made the sleazy breed for profit pure bred puppy mill people breed a ton of them. After Kirby won Westminster my friends were very worried about Paps becoming the next popular dog. If I ever get another dog or two, I’d strongly consider Paps if I had small dogs.

My friends also were very active in rescue for the Papillion club, and fostered quite a few dogs from time to time. Their dogs were very good with the visiting Paps. My friends also showed in the AKC shows, obedience, and agility, and taught free obedience classes through the local kennel club. They were amazing volunteers, and their Paps were lovely.

I have my first Pap, love her to pieces! She’s my barn doggie, the JRT we have now is the couch potato. Both are aged and I worry about even being able to afford to find another well bred Papillion. If you do choose a Pap the breeders say that the males are more affectionate, and they are amusing little clowns.

Two pts I want to make, on the housebreaking the thought is that small breeds have small bladders so that is the necessity for successful housebreaking - attention to the timing need. And Pap coats do not mat. They have a single silky coat.

The King Charles spaniels I have known are not that large. They do breed them smaller for laps. May be easier to find.

I would only buy somewhere you can see both parents and access the type better.

Our pom cross is also a shelter dog (she was abandoned as a puppy because she was “too much trouble.” She is yappy at things that are out of place, strange - we are working on that by moving crap around the house ALL the time LOL. I drag my darned grill around daily so she’ll have to deal with it in different places - that really used to freak her out.

But as far as just inside the house she’s not too yappy - she only barks AT stuff and has never met a person or another animal that she doesn’t love - she is enormously sweet and I adore her. The chi cross I have is nippy with strangers (he is protected from himself - good on a leash but I put him up when we have company, too). The paps I have known, though, have been VERY sweet and good with strangers. One was a horse show regular, though, and very well socialized. I do love the cavaliers, too (well, there aren’t many dogs I DON’T love, I suppose) and the ones I know are really nice dogs. Calm!

Maybe they should consider a toy poodle: they are smart, cute, and loving. They do require regular grooming and exercise, but they are wonderful dogs.

I love my Coton de Tulear. He is the most good natured, friendly guy around. Doesn’t shed, needs to be groom every 6-8 weeks, but has a good character and loves to cuddle. He loves people and is always coming to snuggle with us on the couch. Hes a little clown too and makes us laugh everyday. He is only a year but already is mature like an older dog. Its hard to pick a sitter since everyone volunteers to watch him.

They are great dogs, I had one growing up and we put him down just last year at the ripe age of 17. He is a great family dog, doesn’t bark or isn’t yappy at all. We are expecting in 4 weeks and I am not worried about him acclimating to the new baby. They are not overbred so they have no health problems and overall are just wonderful.

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You may also want to consider a toy American Eskimo[/QUOTE]

I have a standard Eskie. I got him at 1.5 years old. He is now 13 and still ain’t exactly housebroken. He is neutered and was neutered before I got him and still marks in the house. We have a dog door so not much excuse for it.

He is very suspicious of strangers. He is too rough with children and is willing to put teeth on humans. He used to get muzzled for all his vet appointments.

While he isn’t high maintenance he does need to be brushed and he hates being brushed so it is always a fight to do his pants. He isn’t as heavy coated as a show dog would be either.

He can be a bit barky. He picks fights with my lab and has not been in the same room as my lab for 4 years. The lab has tried to kill him twice but he is the one that starts it. He is still stupid enough to growl at the lab through the patio door.
While I love Casey I would not get another Eskimo Spitz.