I’m wondering how one would sue a drug company for something that happens when one self-medicates their horse with no veterinary diagnosis in place, and no documentation that the drug was administered properly, or for the correct diagnosis, or at all.
Doesn’t mean people can’t or should’t ever self-medicate, but trying to defend oneself from a lawyer seems . . . awkward. :lol:
Not to interrupt the conversation you all have going on here but I just wanted to check in. 
My boy is an OTTB that as many of you probably already know that I got back in August. He was eating great for a few months off the track but has always been fussy when brushing his barrell. He has a nice shiny coat and doesn’t spook at all and up until recently when we started really trying to put some weight on has been a great eater. Only recently (last 3-4 weeks) has he been really NQR. The vet was out and ran a full tick panel as well as blood to check for various other abnormalities related to the above symptoms. He also had his teeth done at the time (vet said they weren’t bad though) Everything came back negative but he still just isn’t quite right.
His eating could be described as finicky at best, he’s even more fussy about his barrell (sometimes even grinds teeth while being brushed) and is a bit back sore (a little in front of his croup) even though he hasn’t been ridden in over a month and a half (since a little before odd behaviour started).
Per the vet, treatment for ulcers would be the best option at this point to try. I ordered the tablet version of the pop rocks and I’m praying they work. I know back on page 2 or so of this thread, there was something about the tablets and the few that posted seemed to think they worked. Any others try them? Thoughts? Experiences?
When I get mine I’ll check back in and let you all know how they work for me.
I guess I shouldn’t overestimate here…
Delta, you sue because the “drug” is not what it says it is. Has nothing to do with diagnosis or lack thereof. It’s not being sold as a prescription med, but as a supplement. If it is tainted in some way, you sue because it isn’t what it says.
For example, if what you ordered was an ulcer supplement, but what you actually got was rat poisen…well I think you have recourse.
Do I need to spell that out further? Or do you not remember tainted dog food from China…tainted with rat poisen. That was a HUGE news item and not too long ago. It prompted huge recalls of pet food in the US (manufacturers buying product from China)…and LOTS OF PAYOUTS IN SETTLEMENT.
If you don’t know who you are dealing with or where it comes from and you feed it to your horse, in my mind, well hmmm…no wonder you can’t figure it out.
I think those of you using this stuff are being extremely reckless. A better question is: Would you feed something that came in a plain brown wrapper from god knows where to your child?
Of course you wouldn’t because that would be abuse.
I got no huge payment settlement when my dog died from it. Most everything “made in the USA” now starts as ingredients from foreign countries.
Eta: haven’t even ever ordered the bpr’s yet.
My pop rocks don’t come in a plain brown wrapper. They come labeled in individual packets, with serial numbers and an expiration date like any other drug. Shipped from a company that I can call and talk to real humans about. India is not God-knows-where. Any first grader could find it for you on a map.
Vanuatu might be a little tougher, though. :lol:
I am satisfied that they are what they say they are.
Way, WAY more satisfied with a pharmaceutical than with what people routinely feed their horses in the form of supplements containing God-knows-what.
People feed their kids stuff in brown wrappers from God-knows-where all the time. They’re called Happy Meals. :lol: My kid won’t eat them, bless his healthy little heart. 
We eat stuff that doesn’t come in wrappers. 
For anyone who can’t buy pop rocks for some reason:
I am having great success from Precision Pharmacy’s buffered omeprazole powder. I am able to get it at cost and it is very inexpensive. Less than pop rocks I think.
Johnny has been on it since September. Down to 1/2 scoop (or 1/2 tube of GG per day). Hoping to bring it down to 1/4 once the weather figures out to stay cold. This is generally the time of year he gets sick.
I have tried other compounded omeprazole from other companies with very little luck.
I would use pop rocks if I could. So I am just offering another option for those of you who have exhausted about every other method.
I know this isn’t exactly omeprazole related, but I also use Freedom Feeders for Johnny so that he can be on limited free choice hay while living at a show barn. This enables him to produce saliva constantly and actually gives him something productive to do in his stall.
I think the combination of the two has really, really helped. He’s had FFs since April.
I just ordered my poprocks. Just want to thank everyone who has contributed to all the various poprocks threads, esp. hey101 who originally tested the enteric coating. I <3 COTH!
I dont get it.
Mare’s been on her rocks for about 4 days. BO noticed immediately that she was differant.
Today she reverted back to her old stuff-head tossing, reluctance to move forward, trying to bite my foot when I use leg and groaning.
I think she is in heat so that might be it…or it might be the fact that I did not give her enough TUms???
Has anyone experienced their horse becoming overly fresh after using the pop rocks? A horse in my barn was being given one packet a day and after about a week he became nearly unmanageable. The owner stopped giving it to the horse and he settled down within a day or so. There were no other changes in the horse’s feed or turnout schedule so we are curious if the changes could have been caused by the granules.
My experience has been the opposite, but every horse is different. Maybe this horse reacts to pain by being more quiet than normal, and feeling better made him feel like playing up?
My horse was much improved in about a week of 3 packets a day, he’s off it now and only gets it pre/post big events. I’m very satisfied.
Question for those of you who did the free trial - they require a CC# for that. Do they charge you anything?
Only after I asked them to send the extra 80 packs to complete the order.
what DW said, only after I asked to complete the order.
So if you “complete” the order, then the 20 really aren’t free?
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So if you “complete” the order, then the 20 really aren’t free?[/QUOTE]
I suppose not :). But I just placed my 2nd order.
They’re free if you decide they didn’t work for you or you don’t want to use the product after the TRIAL.
OK thanks! I just wanted to make sure I understood. I’m going to be ordering them - seems like my mare might be having issues. It’ll be a cheap way to tell LOL.
My 6 year old thoroughbred was confirmed to have ulcers via scoping. Vet said on a scale of 1-10, Liam was a 5, so a moderate case. We are just finishing up the once daily tube of GG for 28 days, now moving onto half tube dosing for the next two weeks. I just ordered 100 packets of pop rocks, and will be giving him the maintainance dose. I expedited shipping so hopefully it will get here within the next two weeks and we can transition seamlessly to it!
I will check back in with how he stays on the pop rocks:)
Hi I’ve been using pop rocks since few months ago and been having trouble with the delivery. Recently I used the express option and the extra 30 dollars really saves a lot of trouble with delivery problems. Came to my door step after 5 days. I would say worth it if your horse has chronic colic problems. Based on experience on my Lancaster, PA location.
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