Price difference center aisle vs shed row barn and show me your "souped-up" shed rows

Searched old threads but haven’t found exactly what I’m looking for. I’ve been getting quotes for a 36x36 center aisle barn, two stalls, grooming stall/wash rack, tack room, hay/grain room.

All the quotes I’ve gotten include concrete in the aisle, wash stall, and tack room, and hot water, electric, and site prep.

What I’m curious about is if I keep everything the same but build this barn as a shed row vs a center aisle, can I expect a big difference in price, or will the cost be similar?

I only have 3 acres and can only keep two horses at home. Looking at it from a resale perspective, I can’t justify spending the $$ I’ve been quoted (and I’ve gotten SEVERAL similar quotes) for the barn and fencing when there is NO way I’ll ever get that kind of return on my investment.

I’ve thought about just fencing the whole 2 acres that are dedicated to the horses and putting in a run in shed, but I’m so spoiled with the show barn I’m currently at, I know I won’t be happy with that set up, I really want stalls and a nice wash rack. So, how much more cost effective are shed row barns?

Also, does anyone have a “fancy” shed row barn they want to share with me? Looking online, all I’ve found are basic 3 or 4 stall shed row barns. I want a 12’ porch off the front with a nice aisle, 2 stalls, a wash rack, tack room and feed room. And because of our HOA, buildings must match the house, so it has to be pretty…anybody have something similar? Or am I totally dreaming?

Not sure of your location, but the center aisle barn does allow you to go inside, shut the end doors to be out of the weather. You can wash a horse in cold weather, dry and keep him fairly warm, in that aisle space.

Also nice to be able to work out of the weather, cleaning stalls, grooming horses, or whatever, when you need to do things. Even with a wide overhang, you can’t close out the weather in a shed row barn.

But heck, I am a Northener, so I don’t think the same way folks do down south with their shed row barns. Our barn is oriented to the prevailing wind, so is always fairly cool, has air moving even on hot days, to make it comfortable for horses inside out of the sun and bugs. You STILL have to store tack someplace, feed out of the weather, so do you make the shed row bigger? Cement is sure easier upkeep than dirt which will need more care and replacement at some point to keep things level.

Along that note, if you are in a climate that will allow it, you don’t have to have the wash rack in the barn but maybe just a simple grooming stall and the wash rack outside where it may be easier to engineer drainage

Forgot to say we wash horses in the aisle, with drain in center of the floor. So no wash rack, but we do lots of horse washing anyway!

Aisle is 12ft wide, plenty of room for working, driving the tractor and spreader thru, along with hay unloading. Also Vet and Farrier can drive right inside, makes for easier working anytime, but especially in our cold weather or in rainy conditions. I would not skimp on a skinny aisle, makes things harder to work in, which is WHY we have such a nice wide aisle. I used skinny aisles many places and they are a PITA.

Not too concerned with weather, I’m in the midwest but we have pretty mild winters (or at least manageable!) so ignore that aspect of a shed row barn. I actually just found this, and it actually has everything I’m looking for if I just turn that third stall into the feed/hay room. http://www.woodtex.com/l-shaped-barns.asp

I wont sacrifice my grooming stall/wash rack. I definitely want a covered, enclosed area to get horses ready, and I can even put an infrared heater over it to keep me and the horses warm if I need to. The barn I linked above has just that :slight_smile: Anyone have experience with this company? I’d probably have someone else build it on site instead and just use this blueprint, unless others have rave reviews about them.

Goodhors Do you think a 12’ aisle would still be AS important if I had that wash stall? The 8’ aisle from their website is definitely narrow, but since horses really wouldn’t be cross-tied there do you think it would work or should I go wider?

I have seen a shed row like you are describing, with a 12’ covered aisle in front of the horses; it’s a very pretty and very functional arrangement here in California. Whether it would be for you or not where you are I cannot say. The one caveat I’d give is that I would avoid building a shed row to be west-facing, because the hot afternoon summer sun can be brutal here.

My ‘barn’ is a pipe corral “mare motel” type covered shed row which opens out into a larger paddock. In my climate, this works very well. Because the horses are in larger spaces and because there is so much air flow, cleaning stalls and managing the horses is very low maintenance. You can add plywood panels in to a custom pipe panel for strategic additional shelter or separation.

With only 3 acres, you are going to be very compact anyway. You might, for example, be able to do without hot water in the barn and use water from a mud room in your house.

With only two horses, how often will you be washing horses and in what kind of weather? You need a fully concrete and engineered wash stall for situations where there are lots of horses using water, but if you’re washing one horse once a week, say, you possibly don’t need that.

If you want to maximize resale, think about how to construct your barn so that it can be easily converted to say a workshop. For this, the enclosed barn might be better, and the hot water would probably be a plus.

An 8’ aisle access to your hay room most likely means you have to personally walk every bale through your aisle, as opposed to backing a truck in and being to flip bales out of the truck directly inside. If you pay someone else to stack hay for you, this is probably fine. :lol:

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An 8’ aisle access to your hay room most likely means you have to personally walk every bale through your aisle, as opposed to backing a truck in and being to flip bales out of the truck directly inside. If you pay someone else to stack hay for you, this is probably fine. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Great point! Check out the pictures of the barn I linked, I think a truck could possibly back up between the columns and get pretty close…? If not, I’ll just recruit the teenage neighbor boys to help me :lol:

you could also do a modified shed row, where the stalls/tack/feed are all along one wall, but instead of the shed row being open to the elements, it’s got a wall there, so the aisle is along the outer wall. COTH poster Libby2563 has one like this. It appears very functional, and her blog detail the pros/cons of such a design.

I have a center aisle (4 stalls, tack/feed, and wash) and while our aisle is 12’ wide, I think I’d be fine with 10. There’s not a lot of horses passing eachother in the aisle so we dont need the width a high-traffic barn would. I think you’d be fine with 10’ if it’s just you riding.
Similarly, I have just 4 horses, so I’m not moving a ton of grain that requires me to get a truck in. I usually buy 3 bags at a time, and I’m fine lugging them the 10 feet from the barn door to the grain bins. I keep hay in an outdoor storage building, so usually just have 2-4 bales I drag in at a time, using a hand cart. I can see for a big operation with a ton of horses, you’d want to be able to drive a truck/tractor through the aisle, but for just 2 horses, you should be able to manage it all on foot.

You may want to look into additional hay storage though. If you have a stall-sized space for hay/grain/bedding, you won’t be able to store much hay there. It’s cheaper to buy a ton or three and just get hay a few times a year. Also a good consideration when hay gets more expensive in the winter months. You can stockpile it over the summer and not have to worry about buying while hay is scarce or pricey.

also, we have heat lamp over our wash/grooming area, and it’s so nice if you have to give your gray horse a bath for a winter show :slight_smile:

I still would go for the 12ft aisle, but we use the aisle so much it is quite important to me. I do quite a lot of driving thru the barn, cleaning stalls with tractor and spreader, bringing in sawdust, as well as using it for working on the horses in cross ties. Washing in the aisle is pretty easy for us, so having an extra space to wash is redundant.

You would have to NEVER put anything on the walls of an 8ft aisle without snagging on it, truck just won’t fit well. With hay sticking out of truck bed (at least the way I stack a truck) you might not fit at all. Maybe you bring home smaller loads, but I want to get as much hay per trip, so I do less trips. Not sure if you could open the doors to get out of the truck!! Have to fold the mirrors down. And those kids? They will probably only be available once or twice, before the work is “too hard or they are too busy” or they get regular jobs, graduate. Don’t build a skinny aisle, counting on them being available!

We back the truck inside, then pull forward as we fill the hay storage areas from back to front of the barn. No walking bales or carrying them from here to there, on the floor. Turns the job into WORK!

I also back my pickup inside the barn to unload feed. I am not carrying bags or pushing them in wheelbarrows when I can drive to the feed room door. I want to handle once and be done, feed put away. Easy with the 12ft width.

Looking at your plan, you need to consider having the roof raised, or you can’t have the 12ft overhangs because they will be so low as to bash the horses heads. That will cost you some money! Horses NEVER consider low overhangs, they just run into them. So you build overhangs tall enough to never be an issue later.

To get the roof pitch needed, with the 12ft widths on both sides of the center barn ridge, center height will need to be considerable higher, to add on 4ft of drop in the roof line. Talk to a Contractor about that. Adding height, wider barn sides, is going to add cost to the plan. You might use the gain of the extra footage in width, for bigger stalls! You also might want to consider putting in eavestroughs with drainspouts or buried drain tubes to guide roof water away from roof edges and prevent ponding after rains.

We have a 36 x 24 shed row barn with 2 stalls and a combo tack/feed room and a 12 ft. aisle. The aisle and the tack/feed room are concrete, and the stalls and exterior barn walls are concrete perimeter beams (so not a pole barn). I have boarded at both center aisle and shed row barns with dirt aisles and didn’t want that in our own barn.

As far as cost savings, our barn is modular. At the time we bought, which is a considerable while ago, we could have had the same amount of roof covering a 36 x 24 center aisle barn, with 2 stalls along one side and the other side used either for a combo tack/feed room and either open storage or a wash stall, or separate tack and feed rooms. This design would have also had the same amount of concrete flooring. However, we hadn’t cared for the many center-aisle barns we had boarded in over the years while really enjoying the airy, breezy shed row ones, so we went with the shed row design even though there were no savings on roof area or concrete in our case. In our climate, having copious ventilation is a prime consideration.

We put in a wash rack in the aisle at the end, in front of the tack/feed room with a slightly pitched concrete floor and grooves cut in the concrete to help channel the water, but quickly decided that we much preferred having a wash area just a few steps away, under an adjacent large tree, where we put in gravel topped with interlocking mats. It’s shady and breezy, a very pleasant place to work in our climate the few times per year we wash the horses (usually only before clipping), and still very close to the hot and cold water taps near the wash rack. When we hose our hoses off, after exercise on hot days, for instance, we do so underneath one tree or another so that the run-off water serves the purpose of irrigating the trees. For just a couple of horses, in a hot climate, this works for us.

We groom underneath the 12 ft. wide overhang over the concrete aisle, in front of the stalls; after several years, we installed thin rubber matting from TSC over the most-used area. Here, we have the benefit of shade and protection from precipitation, but still enjoy the breezes. Our barn is oriented so that the stalls and aisles (the 36 ft. length) are perpendicular to the summer’s southeasterly breeze, while the long backside of the barn faces the winter’s relatively harsh northwestern storms (the direction from which severe weather and hail is most likely in our area).

It’s no problem to get feed into the tack/feed room, as we also only purchase 3 to 4 bags of feed at a time, and generally no more than a half-dozen or so bags of pelleted bedding (the latter is kept in a deck box at one end of the barn aisle, near the wash rack stanchion). I can drive up to the barn, parallel and right next to the aisle and across from the tack/feed room door, and have only to tote the bags across the width of the aisle, which is no biggie. We store our hay in a dedicated hay shed adjacent to the barn, where we fill the slow feed hay nets each morning and carry them the very short distance to the barn. We want neither the mess nor what we consider to be the added fire risk from keeping larger quantities in the barn itself.

I’m quite happy with the 12 ft. aisle width with our small horses, as there is plenty of room to work around them when they are tied in the aisle, whether for grooming, farrier work, or rolling a manure cart or whatever behind them, plus it allows room for the deck box of bedding at one end of the aisle and a cushioned bench at the other. I don’t think an 8 ft. aisle would be as useful for my purposes. However, if all of your grooming and, I assume, farrier and perhaps vet work, would be in a larger, dedicated space, then perhaps a relatively narrow aisle would work for you.

Chiming in only to say that I absolutely love my Woodtex structure, and they delivered it to me in MA from NY for cheaper than I could find someone to build it locally. (Which I did attempt to price out, hoping to give some local handyman some $$.)

It’s constructed out of quality materials, etc.

This was my modified shedrow barn I built in Florida. I LOVED the layout as it was sort of U shaped. There were 2 12X12 stalls on the left that each opened up to a paddock, a 10ft aisle between those stalls and a small tackroom (can see in picture with cross-buckle on door), then another 12X12 stall with opening to paddock, and lastly a 12X24 stall on the entire right side that again opened up to a paddock. It allowed me to have a “center aisle” between the two left 12X12 stalls and tack room in bad weather, but also use the open covered area in good weather (norm for Florida). Unfortunately this is the only picture I have of the barn so hopefully you can see what I mean:

http://blumefarm.com/images/600_barn1.jpg

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You have several options.
One would be, if you go multi-purpose and/or portable, you may have a larger marked if and when is time to sell.

With small acreage and only two horses, consider a regular garage/shop building, with water and electric and then add portable stalls and any other for storage in there, like tack cabinets and washroom with drain.

If you go with modular like the sherd there, you can also possibly sell the barn if it doesn’t fit the market you are selling into later.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

You may surprise yourself with what you thought you needed as opposed to what you can live very happily with.

I boarded my horses for 15 years before bringing them home (10yrs ago) & I thought I “needed” an indoor.
I am in the Midwest too & ended up riding outdoors at least 90% of the time and rarely bothered riding in frigid weather.
I tell people I built the World’s Largest Covered Walkway to the manure pile.
Yes, my current WB is a bit more reactive outside, so after 5yrs I am glad to have the indoor.
But a wash stall is not something you will miss in the long run.
For the few months that kind of plumbing would be in use I’m better off with a hose outside the barn on gravel footing.
Add to that no worries about wash stall pipes freezing in Winter.

Also agree with those saying 12’ minimum for aisleway.
My barn is 36X36 with 2 stalls on one side and 12’ center aisle.
I use the 12X12 space on the stall wall as feed & tack rooms.
The opposite wall is where I store a year’s supply of hay for my 2 horses.
I wish I’d gone 14’ as hayguy drives his truck in to unload and I have to close my eyes.
So far he has not taken down the shelves attached to stall fronts, but it is by a hairsbreadth.
And unloading from the truck is the Best of All Worlds.
Even my guy has new kids helping him every year - cutting, baling, loading & unloading hay is too much work for today’s HS kids.
And he pays them a decent $10/hr.
Trust me, you do not want to be unloading & stacking 300 bales yourself.
Especially if you are {ahem} a certain age…like me.

Farrier & vet both appreciate a sheltered space to work on horses in any weather.

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Great point! Check out the pictures of the barn I linked, I think a truck could possibly back up between the columns and get pretty close…? If not, I’ll just recruit the teenage neighbor boys to help me :lol:[/QUOTE]

I have a 10 foot aisle in my center aisle barn, and the truck is a tight fit. Doable, but you have to be cautious. No way would an 8 foot aisle be doable.

Also consider how much less protection you get from an 8 foot overhang.

I’d really, really want 12 there…

I built a shedrow-style barn similar to the one you posted. It’s got some bells and whistles in terms of horse-keeping, but they’re all retirees, so a wash stall or tack room would’ve been too much. What I did was build a 3-stall barn with a large storage room on the end.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/lyssie1232/IMG_1128.jpg

I was greatly restricted by my property when building… the barn is stuck between 2 building lines (it’s near a corner of the property) and our leech field makes the third side of a triangle that we could build in. I think if money was no object, I may have shifted it a bit and made a 36x36 center-aisle barn with a hayloft, but that would’ve been more expensive (my SO refused to build anything bigger than this by himself, so we would’ve had to hire someone to build a barn with a loft). The protection from the elements would be great (though we basically solved that this winter - we hung clear plastic down the long side of the aisle during the cold months to keep the wind out), and extra storage is always good. Looking back, where money is an actual concern, I still probably should’ve made my storage area bigger (it’s 13’x20’ with 10’+ to the rafters) by bumping the end of the barn out further, but we also have a shed just out of view that holds extras if need be.

Other than that, I’m very happy with how it came out. I only did an 8’ aisle, and really it’s 7’4" once we put the front wall of the stalls on it, and it’s really plenty. The farrier is the only one I feel sort of bad for, but he’s like family so he can’t complain. :wink: The horses are only groomed occasionally and it’s plenty roomy for that.

In terms of cost… I don’t even know what this would’ve cost without all of the ways we were able to save money. Friends took down trees for free, all of the lumber was at cost, the entire roof was free, we borrowed equipment from friends to put up fencing ourselves and spread the sand that is in the run-outs, a friend hooked me up with a major (75%ish IIRC) discount at FarmTek for some building materials, and there was no labor cost for the barn itself other than food and beer. We paid full price for only the foundation, site prep, electrical, and plumbing. So I shudder to think what it should’ve cost… because even with that help, it was expensive.

I originally planned to do a 36’ x 36’ center aisle barn for two horses and lots of storage . . . but, my hilly, rocky site made it prohibitively expensive. I ended up putting in a 24’ x 25’ modular barn that has two stalls, a 12’x 17’ aisle in front of them, and an 8’ x 12’ feed/tack room. It’s the Hackney by Horizon. I didn’t do a loft, and am storing hay in a Shelter Logic ‘shed’ nearby.

This is my first year with the barn and I am feeling very glad that I didn’t put in a shedrow, which I considered, too. Both stalls have dutch doors onto a paddock and they’re open 24-7. The stalls stay cool in part because the aisle is like a cool-air sink. I’m sure a deep overhang could do the same, but I found it was going to be more expensive to build than this one was. Tough choices – good luck!

I am moving from a shedrow the the center aisle. The BIGGEST detriment for me was in the nasty weather when I’m trying to clean stalls and do hay, I’m having to go out into the weather between stalls. My hay was in a storage area behind the barn, so I’m walking bales of hay up in the middle of a nor’easter and putting them in each stall. We did do a modified where we added two stalls and put a roof over the center and that was AMAZING. Gave us a small area to get out of the rain and groom, but it still was a PITA doign those two last stalls.

When we bought the current property and are in the process of building a new barn (old will be taken apart and then re-erected as run ins) I wanted a center aisle all the way.

It also gets so cold inside those stalls! Even with the doors closed.

Thanks for giving me so many ideas and a lot to think about! I did get a quote from Woodtex which is 40% less than any center aisle barn quotes I have gotten. I am going to have them extend the lean to/aisle to 12’ per your suggestions, and I also had them add dutch doors to the back of the stalls as well so they can have attached runs, which will open to the pasture.

I figure with a 12’ overhang, barn chores will be totally doable even if its raining or snowing (I’d hope 12’ would block the elements!), especially since I’ll only have two horses to take care of and they’ll be able to come and go from their stalls whenever they please.

GoForAGallop I would love to hear more about your experience with Woodtex, they don’t have any buildings near me so I haven’t been able to see one in person, unfortunately. I am also having a local builder send me a bid to build the same structure on site, curious to see what will be more cost effective.