Pros and Cons of Horse Adoption?

I’m wondering what everyone’s opinion is on adoption. I really love the idea but some adoption agencies’ stipulations seem pretty excessive. I understand the need for an adoption application and all that but legal ownership from some organizations I’ve looked into can take years to transfer over and while I understand they want to ensure the health and safety of the horse by keeping tabs on them for a while…anything over a year seems a tad too much (one that I looked into took five years. Five years! And the horse isn’t technically yours for that entire period of time). Another organization said they’d retain co-ownership of the horse if you planned on showing. This one really baffled me, I don’t understand why that would be a consideration and I wonder on the logistics of co-ownership if the horse ends up living in a different area. But I’ve never adopted before and I’ve never worked with a rescue organization either. So what do I know?

I’d love to hear what other people think and what their own experiences are. Is it very much dependent on the specific organization? Is it less trouble to just buy instead of adopt and be done with it?

If I wanted a sound healthy horse that was already in work in a discipline I would not go to a “rescue.”

With a very few exceptions the horses that end up in rescues have a few strikes against them that meant they had no resale value on the open market.

It is very difficult to get sound, sane, and well.broke in a rescue horse.

You might get a promising unbroke baby or an older unbroke pasture pet. Or a well schooled older horse showing chronic problems associated with aging.

Or a nutcase baby with physical limitations.

Because of this, rescues know that many or most of the horses they place can well end up back in the auction and slaughter pipe line when people realize the horse won’t work out. Therefore the rescues try to maintain ownership so they can rehome the horse.

We have local rescues that seem to have a revolvjng door on horses that keep coming back ",through no fault of their own "

There are a lot of “fallen through the cracks” horses out there, adult unbroke horses or overgrown babies, just for sale cheap sitting in fields. There is no need to go to a rescue to give a horse an “, upgrade.”
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Though not a rescue, I’ve adopted from an OTTB adoption facility. Technically, it can be argued whether it’s an adoption or it’s a purchase, but either way, there are some good facilities out there for the TBs. Contracts do vary, though. Where I got my horses, I am the owner on day one. They do ask you to send updated pics every year. What happens if I decide not to, nothing really. There is no legal recourse. I do it, though, because I support the cause.

I know of another TB adoption facility whose contract states that they can reclaim the horse at any time. Will they? Not likely. Can they? Apparently, as it’s in the contact. For that reason, I wouldn’t adopt from them, even though I see many nice horses and have heard good stories from adopters.

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Never again, simply because I think I could find a horse that didn’t work out a better home, and could keep better tabs on him than a rescue ever could.

As it was, I bought an unknown horse, put a couple years of training into him (both pro and miles), and then when he didn’t work out for my dh we didn’t have any options other than return him to the rescue–where he was immediately resold because now his issues were known and he had a considerable amount of training and experience.

Lesson learned, won’t do it again.

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You adopt children; you buy or lease horses (or any other property).

When you buy something BUY it; obtain full ownership rights (including the right to sell at some future date without encumbrance). If ANYONE ever wants you to sign a purchase agreement with obligations to notify the seller or to grant the seller any right to participate is the sale decision then don’t walk away, RUN!!! You’ll be glad you did.

With lease agreements you have a very different problem. You don’t own property you lease. Your lease gives you a set of possession and use rights. It puts obligations on you to care for the horse to the standards set forth in the lease. You must follow those rules as set forth. If you can’t do that for any reason (or no reason) then you must notify the owner and surrender possession. This may trigger penalties that you will have to pay. Make sure you understand these things up front.

Any other arrangement (no matter what it might be called) will be a variation on either a sale or a lease.

Note that I am badly out step with some folks on this issue but IME those that want to use the “adoption” model tend to be a few bricks short of a full load. Nothing good ever comes of that.

So, to answer your last question: buy the horse or lease it. End of discussion.

G.

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my older daughter is having one delivered tomorrow morning.

The horse is a registered Morgan who was relinquished by its owner to the Morgan Safety Net program. This is not a rescue but their goal is to re-evaluate, re-train, and prepare the horse for a suitable home and to match the horse with the right person so the home then becomes a lasting one.

The horse is older (22), but in good health who will the beginner mount for her daughters.

Ownership is transferred

pros… daughter is getting a well trained horse who just needed a home, we had the space available

cons… none

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I would be happy to have a return policy on any horse… If it has lameness or any health or behavioral issues, it can be returned. I had one horse for training that would run the fence if one horse left the herd. Anytime I trailered off the property he would run until I returned 4 hours later. I trailer somewhere multiple times a week, so that just did not work for me.

I had a lease on a horse that had PSSM. She tied up badly, was staggering, nearly falling down. So glad I did not buy her!

I rescued one that has uveitis. He absolutely hates my neighbor’s daily gun shooting next to my property line. I need to re-home him if possible. He would do much better on a property that does not have gun crazy neighbors shooting at every hour of the day.

I have one with navicular, and one with some sort of lameness issue. That leaves me with one sound riding horse and the one with uveitis that is rideable. I cannot take every rescue and pay for their retirement.

If you are looking for a show horse to train and flip, then don’t get a rescue. But in general, I think it is a good thing when the rescue maintains ownership. It gives you a way out if the horse doesn’t meet your needs, if you have life changes, or something happens.

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I would make an exception for the OTTB organizations especially the ones that put some training on the horses and sell them at low market value.

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Thanks for the replies.

And as some of you have mentioned I have noticed that a lot of OTTB groups are essentially buying and selling. I’m not sure why most of them call it adoption, especially since some of them you’d be getting straight from the owner that raced them…maybe for the marketing? Either way I don’t have the experience necessary (or the desire) to retrain a horse fresh off the track so if I ever did get one it’d be from someone who already retrained them/one that’s been off the track for a while.

I think by hearing from other people and questioning things myself that giving an adoptive horse a “forever home” isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. I’d rather just buy and keep in contact with the previous owner (if they wish) than be tangled up with an organization that can take back the horse whenever they want (however unlikely they would be to actually do that I still don’t like the possibility hanging over my head) and who I have to run everything by if I get a different boarding place or vet or anything.

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The myth of the “forever home.” No domestic animal has, or has ever had, or ever could have, a “forever home.” That’s 'cause no human has ever had a “forever home.” We have a home until we don’t. Death, divorce, disease, despair all can rob a human of their home and, also, the horse that the human might own. So any promise of a “forever home” is an empty one.

G.

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There’s a crazy on every corner in the horse world. A good rule of thumb is, if it sounds nuts or overly invasive, just go with your gut and avoid it. There are many fish in the sea and no shortage of horses out there.

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Personally in 55 years of horse ownership, I have never seen the “adoption” process go well for the adopter. I have two good friends who are involved —one rescues and finds homes for minis, the other takes unwanted horses. Both are good people. Mini rescue does a good job finding, working with, and transporting minis to better homes. However, it is clear from her finances (she’s non profit, so available) that this is a business for her. She has no job outside of this. She makes her living and supports her rescue from donations and money made from sales or adoptions. Not that this is bad, but I think most 30 something horse lovers would LOVE a job that pays them to work with horses. Although I have no doubt she is altruistic, I think there is something self-serving about her organization. FYI she has four personal horses that receive little attention, almost no riding, but good care. She’s just wrapped up in rescuing minis.

Second person (one-time friend, now not so much, too many different opinions) took me with her to get a “free horse” --yep, worth what she paid for it. I suggested she save her money for one year (all that would cost to own a horse for one year $2-3K) and BUY a horse. She didn’t. Although she touts the horse to the moon as being “perfect” ==what she has is an older mare with hock issues, unrideable for the most part --bucks, bolts, and is generally unpleasant. But, as my friend says (often), “Ha, ha --you know how mares are!” In a ll fairness, had friend put some work into the horse when it was younger, she might have turned out well. But friend (who once was a good trainer) now believes that good horses WANT to work for their owners —no training, up keep needed. Sigh. As I said, we don’t do much together any more.

Her second adoption was a pony that was free --cost $2K in kidney treatment before it died after a few months.

Her third adoption was another “free horse” that the owner swore was a “great horse, just needed a home.” Well, great horse (also a mare) doesn’t load at all (took four big men to get it on a trailer to take to her house). Mare is now 22 and can be ridden around her two acres. Can’t take it any place because it doesn’t load.

So my firm belief is you get what you pay for.

FYI I have four horses, three rather retired and one I ride. So I don’t have anything against keeping horses one doesn’t use, just with the whole adoption idea. But that could be my age. KIds are adopted, horses purchased.

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Very well said.

And thus endeth the lesson.

G.

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Adoption is a very varied term.
There are very distinct advantages to adopting from a rescue org. If you don’t personally see them, it doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

If an org.s contract isn’t to your liking, there are plenty of fish in the sea.
Each org is unique, just like the horses they take in/ … / adopt out.

The problem with generalizations, like the comments above, is they paint with a broad brush. The problem with labeling something, is that it means you ignore that everything is relative.
If the friends in the above post like their unrideable, unloadable horses… who cares? Who are any of us to define what anyone else needs or should want in a horse? If the steward appreciates the animal as they are, and care is humane, what’s it to you or me to say that’s not ok?
There are many roads to Rome, choose yours and let others choose theirs.

If you don’t mind missing a very special opportunity, go ahead and ignore adoption as an avenue. If you already have your mind made up, though, there’s really no reason to ask the question. You can’t answer the question if your hands are empty of pros.

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Horses are chattel. They are bought, sold, and leased. Calling it “adoption” is pulling on emotional heartstrings, and making the transaction into something it isn’t. If you want a horse, go and buy or lease one that is suitable for your intended use. Know where you stand, as that horse’s owner or lease holder.

It is possible to find a horse at a “rescue” that may suit what you are looking for, and in that case, you may decide to play their game, and abide by their rules, if you wish. But a similar horse may well be available to purchase or lease, which is usually a better “deal” for you, if not for the horse as well.

Understand that there is no “rescue” for low value horses, there is only a “market”. The “market” is that of people looking to acquire a low value horse for whatever purpose they have for that horse. That purpose may be for a companion horse, a pet, a beginner or young child’s older horse of questionable soundness but kind and forgiving nature with lots of training installed, or an untrained horse with no major issues and with potential, or for meat.

Being sold for meat CAN be a better end for a horse than ending up with someone who loses interest in them, doesn’t know how to look after them adequately, or is crazy. The meat industry is driven by the desire of some people to eat horse meat, and operates on a “quota” system. Meat buyers contract to collect and deliver a certain number of horses or tonnage to the slaughter plant. They buy cheap horses to fill this quota, but they look for healthy horses in good flesh, who are able to be shipped successfully. If someone else wants a horse that they were going to buy, that’s fine, the other person can buy that horse, the meat buyers will often sell a horse they have just purchased to someone else for $50 more than they paid if someone else wants it. The meat buyer simply goes and buys another horse instead, to make up the amount of horse meat that he must supply to fulfill his contract. So, the actual “rescue” of a horse from the meat man results in no actual change in the number of horses that go for meat. Every time YOU buy a cheap horse, YOU send another horse to the meat market due to your purchase. Choose wisely. There is no “rescue”, there is only a different horse going for meat instead of the one you bought for your own uses. Therefore, buy the horse who fills the need you have for a horse, whatever that may be. Every cheap purchase of a horse had better be a horse who IS what you are looking for, because if you “rescue” horse out of emotion only, to “save” it, you may well be stuck feeding and caring for a horse who does not meet your needs as a horseman… an expensive proposition, and one that most horsemen try hard to avoid (vet checks, trial periods before purchase).

Horses are bought and sold by dealers. They may be high end dealers, or low end dealers. Although “horse dealers” have a historically “bad” reputation, this is not always the case. Low end dealers often buy horses out of fields, in a bunch. They take them home, and try them out, see who is broke, who is not broke, who is apparently sound, and who isn’t, who is kind and friendly, and who has issues that make them “difficult”. They may have the ability to put a bit of basic training on some of the horses. If they are honest dealers, they represent their horses honestly to potential buyers, and often offer a buy back option if you end up not liking the horse for ANY reason after you get it home. They sort through the horses, and sell the “bad” ones (the ones they don’t think are going to be successful as a riding horse, or be able to be sold successfully as such) on to the meat market, without emotion or regret. In this way, they run an economic and self sustaining business, and serve the equine industry faithfully. I’ve bought horses from such people, very successfully. Bonus for everyone. If you are looking for a cheap horse, these are excellent sources for this commodity. You will pay a bit more than from an auction, but often worth the extra $.

Folks who run “equine rescues” may well be soft hearted, kind people who genuinely like horses (or they may well be crazy). But they are delusional, and are acting solely on emotion without considering reality, and are often soliciting funds by pulling on heartstrings since they are not conducting an economic business. They are satisfying their own “rescue complex”, where they can congratulate themselves on the “work” they do… which may or may not actually benefit the horses they collect. If you can benefit your own situation by using their services, and are OK with abiding by their “adoption terms”, then go ahead and play their game. Or not.

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The idea of a “rescue” covers a lot of ground so you really need to look into that particular organization.

I fostered several horses from CANTER when they had a New England branch and kept one. Organizations like CANTER, which has no paid staff, offered two models: They matched trainers and potential buyers for sale to non racing homes and they had a few horses that were donated to the program, or purchased by the program, that were adopted.

The horse I kept was given to the program by the owners because they didn’t want to through the process of vetting the buyers. Another horse had been sold to a “kill buyer” when his racing career ended and ended up at New Holland, where he was identified by his tattoo. At that point CANTER bailed him out, trucked him back to NE and rehabbed him.

The horse I kept was sound and able for the first 14 or so years I had him. Now that he’s pushing 23, he has some SI joint issues and I’ve retired him to light riding. The adoption fee was $300 and he came with a winter blanket. I had fostered him for several months and knew he was sound and suitable for foxhunting, which is what I do. As part of the adoption process, I had to provide photos of the horse 1x/year for several years.

Choose your rescue wisely. Vet any horse that interests you and remember that initial price of the horse is not what the horse “costs.”

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Since “adoption” when applied to animals is an oxymoron at best then there can be neither pro nor con. When you look to buy or lease you have both.

G.

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Thanks for making my point. Your mind is fixed.
So why answer if you have zero to offer on half the question "Pros and… " ?
Thats rhetorical.

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Yes, my mind if fixed. That’s 'cause the definition of this word is “fixed.” My mind is reflecting reality, not fantasy. Sometimes “fixed” is a good thing for effective communication.

G.

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From my understanding, which could be wrong but makes sense to me, if you get a horse from a nonprofit organization (such as New Vocations), it’s called an adoption. Not necessarily because it’s a “rescue”, but because it can’t be considered a sale. As far as if you should do it or not, I think it depends. I adopted an OTTB from New Vocations years ago, I had no troubles with the process and he was a wonderful horse. If you find one you just love, and it’s from a reputable organization and you can go visit and try the horse first, I see no reason why you shouldn’t go that route. The ones with the weirder requirements that you mentioned though, I’d stay away from those. Or at the very least ask the organization about them. Five years is a bit excessive to me, unless they will take the horse back within those five years at no charge if it doesn’t work out.

ETA: to answer your original question, I had no issues with the adoption process when I adopted. I had to get approved before I could even look, and then it was just a matter of choosing. If I wanted a horse with the express desire to likely sell, I would buy. If I wanted a horse intending it to stay a personal horse for as long as it worked out, I would consider adoption as I know it has a place to go should things not work out.

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