PSA: “Hotness” and EIPH/Asthma

Posting this because I think it might help someone, someday.

My mare was diagnosed with EIPH in the summer of 2021 after two bleeds, an endoscopy and a BAL. She is/was a hot horse, a very forward jumper. But she was super reactive and could have an energy that I struggle to describe accurately, but that feels sometimes frantic or manic. We had started Regumate a few weeks before the bleeds, and so we never quite knew if the energy was related to lady hormones or if it was related to the asthma.

Since treating both, she has been a different horse. So happy, so calm, and so quiet that the BO (who runs a separate operation from us and doesn’t know all the particulars) commented on it. Hell, I comment on it!

Well…: She had another bleed last week, and in the minutes leading up to it, she was the same hot horse she used to be before treating for the asthma and lady issues. She was jigging at the walk, wild on course and impossible to package in front of the fence. She hadn’t coughed or snorted before the energy changed or before she started bleeding. The only thing amiss was that she was breathing a little heavily.

It’s now pretty clear to me that the “spiciness” is related to the heaves. It’s VERY different from her normal “excited to do my job” hot jumper temperament.

My IM vet says that the symptoms with asthma/heaves/EIPH are so varied that you really have to “learn” your horse. Some cough. Some snort. Some just take longer to recover after exertion. And I totally agree. But, I have noticed other asthmatic horses and ponies who also tend to be “hot”. I wonder if this is something similar to “spooky” or “reactive” horses with ulcers that we’ll understand better in a decade.

Anyways, food for thought!

We are taking 7-10 days off, starting the Aservo, and considering the Flexineb so that we can be more proactive when “little things” arise. In retrospect, there were “little things” that came up, but resolved, in the lead-up to this bleed that if we had treated might have circumvented the drama. Oh! And our hay steamer from England has arrived! Perfect timing!!

Anyone else see this connection between “temperament” and asthma/heaves/EIPH?

5 Likes

My horse with asthma is never hot. He mostly has exercise intolerance. But when his asthma was really bad and we were searching for a reason (leading up to the BAL), we moved barns for a bit, he was a lot spookier and reactive about stuff that has not bothered him since. He’s not a particularly spooky horse, generally. He also had a pain issue going on at the same time, so I attributed the behavior to that more than the asthma.

4 Likes

Not being able to breathe easily while working can be very upsetting, so I’m guessing that a horse feeling a constricted airway causes them stress, which can look and feel like plain ‘hot.’ In people, anxiety increases acute breathing problems. And increased blood pressure, which is linked to EIPH.

4 Likes

No experience with this, just wanted to send jingles and hugs to you and your girl. So sorry you’re both dealing with this. :kissing_heart:

2 Likes

No …,actually the opposite…my mare who was diagnosed with asthma via BAL and scoping , and another gelding of my with asthma had very low energy-especially when coughing /sneezing or snorting …like very behind your leg , and fatigued very easily and just exercise intolerance …now that we are managing the asthma with steamed hay only, allergy/immunotherapy shots, cardboard bedding , and some respiratory supplements-KER EO3 oil, Smartbreathe Ultra and Jiagulon she’s much more forward going and no more nasal discharge…as well as no more coughing !

1 Like

This is what I was thinking - that she was in a panic.

1 Like