QH and Arabian bloodlines gurus

[naturalequus]

Cross-posting from Off Course; obv Qh’s and Arab’s aren’t exactly sport horses, but hopefully it’s still okay to post here

What can you tell me about these bloodlines:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/docs+blonde+buckshot

and

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tw+fire+whorl

My knowledge is (mostly) limited to the obvious, so your help would be appreciated! TIA!

[columbus]

The QH pedigree I would expect to be a solid perfomance or working ranch pedigree. QHs for sport are mostly based on type and much much less on pedigree. It isn’t that there are not great working lines for QHs but that the type for a good working western horse could still be significantly down hill with a low neck placement and not a lot of freedom in the shoulder or elasticity in the body and back. In searching the QH world for your sport candidate you have to look first for a sport horse who happens to be a QH. Ther are ranches who breed larger and more uphill horses. Generally Montana and the mountain states. This QH pedigree has only one TB on the page…Three Bars, Unless the breeders selected QHs for sport I wouldn’t expect to find it but on the other hand if the horse looks like a warmblood I bet it will come with a great mind and trainability.

The Arabian is a lovely Polish dominated pedigree I would hope to find sport type conformation from the racing lines in this pedigree. Only one line to Bask…I like that. The stallion AAF Kaset was a popular stallion who was a goo mare sire and produced both halter and performance Arabians. PatO

[notforyouorme]

Wow! I can’t believe I looked at this-we had a mare that was by HS Thirty Thirty (she came out of Canada, too, like him). She was buckskin and went grey. I would have killed to have bred her to a crazy-talented TB sporthorse, because she was very uphill and really cool (injured as a foal and never broke), but, sadly, she died. She was not very QH-y, and had a very strong, long hind leg. I can’t remember her damline without digging out her papers.

Windchester was a well-known sire of performance/show horses, I believe.

Off the top of my head (I’m no scholar on QH lines, for sure), I love the Peppy San/cow on the bottom because all the QH’s I’ve seen that jumped awesome and/or were true sporthorse type (not the spindly hunter under saddle types) had very foundation cow on one side. The really good cow horses are real athletes. So, I think it’s interesting, for sure.

[chemteach]

I can only speak to the Arabian bloodlines. The pedigree appears mostly polish to me. AAF Kaset and his sire, Aladdin were both National Champion stallions. There are lots of big name horses in this pedigree.

[stripes]

[QUOTE=naturalequus;5884903]
Cross-posting from Off Course; obv Qh’s and Arab’s aren’t exactly sport horses, but hopefully it’s still okay to post here

What can you tell me about these bloodlines:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/docs+blonde+buckshot

and

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tw+fire+whorl

My knowledge is (mostly) limited to the obvious, so your help would be appreciated! TIA![/QUOTE]

Not sure why you think Arabians are not sport horses…

That said, the Arabian pedigree that you posted is very sporty. Polish Arabians are bred for racing, so very athletic. Silver Drift is Crabbet are also very athletic. The Polish/Crabbet cross is very successful in sport, I could go as far as saying it is a “Golden Cross” for the performance horses in the breed. *Bask’s best english get came from Crabbet mares. *Forta is also a very much sought after blood for performance horses.

[naturalequus]

You’re right stripes Thanks for all the info guys!

We recently purchased a 3yo filly of the above cross; we’re really looking forward to working with her!

[CdnRider]

the name thirty thirty rang a bell for me too, here is a thirty thirty appendix son http://www.gwequineservices.com/mr3030-1.html

I don’t know anything about the line though!