I adore Quaterback but his frozen is difficult to get in nz, and the stuff that did get into the country produced very few pregnancies.
So I was wondering about his stallion sons, particularly Qredit and Quaterhall.
Does anyone have more info on these two? Perhaps some inside information?
TIA
Well, I bred a mare to Qredit and just sold her in foal. The buyer loved her pedigree and the stallion she was bred to, so I am thinking his foals are popular:) The mare is a purebred Arabian by Ohadi Ben Rabba.
I am a newly converted fan of Quarterback after seeing so many of his mares last summer! Shame you donāt have good frozen of his b/c here in the US his frozen has been quite successful.
I donāt know much about Qredit but did see Quaterhall and a few of his offspring last summer. Very nice stallion, substantial in size, good temperament in hand. The mares of his that I saw were also quite substantial in size (not sure about their dams) and had three nice gaits in hand. Obviously nothing of theirs under saddle yet so that is a question. However, all the Quaterback mares I saw that had completed their MPT already had very good rideability scores.
Allanglos - Jeepers that should be a very showy foal, no wonder the mare sold in foal!
BF - So youāve actually seen Quaterhall? Cool! The current photo of him shows a lovely horse, with a short back, long neck, cute pony face. His limbs look ok, but I would rather he had a much longer length of hip. Actually a bigger backside altogether. Is it just the photo or did you notice his butt didnāt match his front?
The Hanoverian mare I have in mind is not great in the back end with a too-straight hind limb as well. I think the bloodlines cross well and the Q-D movement would compliment her but I need a stallion with a massive rear end.
Does anyone have a good conformation picture of Quarterhall?
I know Qredit and several of his babies quite well. Heās only had a few babies so farā¦so I donāt know how much you can judge from themā¦ but they tended to be a bit spicy. I donāt know if that is coming through him, or not. There also was not a lot of uniformity to them, I donāt think he really stamps his offspring, (ie you can look at a baby and say, oh! thats a Qredit!) but I wouldnāt really say they resemble their momās either. I think they are very nice movers, but may not be an ammy friendly ride, and I would be really careful about the mare bred to him.
That being said, Iāve also know quite a few Quarterbacks, and there really wasnāt a whole lot of uniformity to them either. None of them were bad horses, but there were everything to ok movers to wow movers, even out of some very nice mares. Though I thought alot of QBs tend to be very laid back.
Not saying he is a bad choice, certainly capable of having an extrodinary, moving baby, but that I think it is something that needs to be considered. Also, oddly, while he is not overly tall, the foals seemed very large. 2 had some issues due to their size as foals, so if you know your mare passes on huge babies, I think that is also something to consider.
Wanted to edit this to add, I donāt think the babies were awful, just not as easy as other have been. But they were babies, so it remains to be seen what they will be like as they develop. So if you know your mare throws a hotter temperment, and you do not want that, it is something to think about. I didnāt mean it to sound like they were awful, just some things to think about when considering him for your mare.
Yes, I saw him last summer at the stallion station. I donāt remember thinking his looked dis-proportioned but looking at the photo I took his hind quarters do look less than the ideal ā1/3ā. However, I do not mind the angles of his limbsā¦pasterns maybe a bit long but not too much. The only picture I have of Quaterhall is on my website. Scroll down:
http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2012.html
Hind end conformation of the Q-line is the thing I worry about as it is Quaterbackās weak point too. That is why I have not bred him to my Davignon mareā¦that is her weak point as well. However, if you have a mare with a strong hind end I would use Quaterback in a second. All the mares I saw of his had great trots, even had decent walks, well conformed and very good temperaments (based on MPT results).
I did not see any offspring of Quaterhall (too young) so the jury is out on him. Not sure what his SPT scores were for rideability but that may be something worth looking up.
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I know Qredit and several of his babies quite well. Heās only had a few babies so farā¦so I donāt know how much you can judge from themā¦ but they tended to be a bit spicy. I donāt know if that is coming through him, or not. There also was not a lot of uniformity to them, I donāt think he really stamps his offspring, (ie you can look at a baby and say, oh! thats a Qredit!) but I wouldnāt really say they resemble their momās either. I think they are very nice movers, but may not be an ammy friendly ride, and I would be really careful about the mare bred to him.
That being said, Iāve also know quite a few Quarterbacks, and there really wasnāt a whole lot of uniformity to them either. None of them were bad horses, but there were everything to ok movers to wow movers, even out of some very nice mares. Though I thought alot of QBs tend to be very laid back.
Not saying he is a bad choice, certainly capable of having an extrodinary, moving baby, but that I think it is something that needs to be considered. Also, oddly, while he is not overly tall, the foals seemed very large. 2 had some issues due to their size as foals, so if you know your mare passes on huge babies, I think that is also something to consider.
Wanted to edit this to add, I donāt think the babies were awful, just not as easy as other have been. But they were babies, so it remains to be seen what they will be like as they develop. So if you know your mare throws a hotter temperment, and you do not want that, it is something to think about. I didnāt mean it to sound like they were awful, just some things to think about when considering him for your mare.[/QUOTE]
Appreciate that the original post was edited - to this considerably toned down and more measured response. The first read as though there was a personal issue with the stallion, rather than offering an opinion with an intent to enlighten based on oneās personal experience.
With any young stallion there are unknowns as to what he will produce and how the offspring will develop. Hopefully most mares owners do carefully consider not only their own mareās producing qualities -including size and temperament- but those of the mareās dam, the grand dams etcā¦ The depth of the bloodlines overall and what the end product is.
Ferro is a great example of a stallion whose offspring are often considered quite ādifficultā as youngsters, but with ample time now to look at a history, we see this line has produced incredibly successful stallions leading to such as Negro and onto the incredible athlete Valegro. Careful and educated breeding, and it all depends on the breederās goals. Hopefully that is what this poster intends to share.
Personally, I think any stallion who can stand up mentally and physically to the rigors of in hand classes as a youngster with many wins, going under saddle to train, compete and win the Reserve Champion National Four Year Old class for Young Dressage Horses and then goes on to become Champion of the NA Stallion Testing in a very competitive group has very strong qualities to offer. I also agree that breeders need to know their mare and breeding goals regardless.
Have you seen the Celle site for Quaterhall? They have a nice informational video too:
http://landgestuetcelle.de/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=2&idcat=16&idart=1897
Thanks for all the info.
I donāt know how I missed that video! It was nice to see him being worked outside. He looks like heād be a super lovely ride and his butt looks way better in the video than the photo!
Would see if you could get semen of Quadroneur. . Have bred to Quaterback three times and was quite happy with the resulting foals now coming four. I think Quadroneur is my favorite son so far. Lovely type and gaits.
Here is another conf pic of Quaterhall as a 3yr old in case you hadnāt seen it. If you click on the picture it will come up biggerā¦ http://www.dmjhorses.com/index.php?id=207
Thank you both for showing me those pics of Quarterhall, theyāve been super useful! 
I saw Quarterhall at Celle, very nice horse, quite tall, very leggy, nice neck, cute face. Though I thought he has long cannon bones, particularly in the back, and he is quite straight in the hind legs. But overhall very nice stallion, and quite charming with a nice friendly personality 
We had a filly born last year by Qredit out of a Riverman mare. She has an absolutely fabulous temperament and is much less spicy than her dam. She was so easy to take to her inspection and was so well behaved. She is more refined than her dam, very leggy and very elastic and big in her movement. I would describe her as a real athlete.
Thanks everyone for the insights.
LucyMay - do you have any pics of your Qredit filly?
I too have seen many many quaterbacks. Wide wide range in movement and temperment. I have just bought a dose of Quaterhall, and have seen him as a 3 and 4 year old, well, he is going to need a quiet mare for sure lol. Very pretty and leggy stallionā¦ Qredit is very substansial, so would need a lighter mare.
I have a filly here out of a quaterback dam and she is leggy and refined. So, who knows, may be a little gamble for me, and I might not use my Quaterhall semen this year until I see more offspring (Last year was his first crop)
I doā¦Iām not sure how to post but if you PM I believe I can attach them.
Both Quadroneur and Quateron are QxSH crosses. I would be worried about a less-than-stellar walk from this cross. But the trot on Quateron is very impressive!
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