Quarter Horses in eventing

I compete a registered QH Appendix, Adventure Bay. Dam is Bay Forest, father, Sonny’s Hot Jazz. Competed at BN for years, just moved up to Novice last year. We have a USEA record, and he is registered USEA as well as myself. Would love for AQHA to recognize!!!

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I have it in my head that Mike Huber’s Guild Chip was, or had some, QH.[/QUOTE]

I think Gold Chip was a QH. She certainly looked it, at least from photos.

Yes someone else on the 2012 thread I linked also said she was QH.

(No idea how I let that spelling mistake get in!!)

I competed an Appendix QH back in 1985, and then a really nice QH from about 1986-1988. Did Novice with both.

I thought that Quarter Master ridden by Mike Huber in the 1987 Pan Ams was a QH.

I know of two great QH crosses that compete in eventing.

  1. In Style, USEA #117060, 3* Advanced horse, Appendix
  2. Dragon Tea, USEA #133658, Novice horse, QH x arab

3horsemom I remember Lickety Split at the Waco event, Cedar wood? He is a great horse!

[QUOTE=Divine Comedy;7731516]
I think Gold Chip was a QH. She certainly looked it, at least from photos.[/QUOTE]

She was indeed.

Beth Perkins rode Hot Shot Shawn to the highest levels and he was QH.

Thanks all! I am working, with the help of another, on finalizing the proposal. Hopefully we can have a final rough draft ready by next week. I’ll post a link on here to it so I can get your opinions on it and make any revisions necessary. The convention is in spring of next year and I will be presenting it there and keeping my fingers crossed we can get it pushed through :slight_smile:

Have you seen this: http://americashorsedaily.com/horseback-riding-in-three-events/#.U_3mtWOK2Vc

Hi everyone! Just wanted to give an update. Two separate proposals have been submitted to the AQHA for them to consider. The only difference between the two is point structure on the AQHA side of things (Please note that both point structures are shown below; one in regular font which mirrors the AQHA dressage point structure they already have in place, the other in italics mirrors the USEA medal program.) I will be attending the convention to voice my support of both. Below are the documents. Hope everyone is in support! Directly below are numbers showing the amount of QH’s and appendix horses currently competing in USEA events:

             2013               2014

BN 376 328
N 382 324
T 172 134
P 43 33
I 10 10
A 1 1
CIC1 4 9
CIC2 3 2
CIC3 0 1
CCI1 4 9
CCI2 2 0

Rule Wording:

SHW682. EVENTING. An AQHA-approved event. AQHA will recognize these levels of eventing competition starting with the Beginner Novice Level, continuing through Novice Level, Training Level, Preliminary Level, Intermediate Level, and Advanced Level. Eventing may also be offered at an AQHA-approved show or special event and must be judged by a licensed USEA/USEF judge.
• SHW682.1 Eventing will be offered and approved through USEA licensed competitions holding an AQHA-approved class.
• SHW682.2 Show approval as well as horse and exhibitor eligibility requirements must be met.
• SHW682.3 A one-time license of $85 for the horse must be recorded with AQHA prior to the competition.
SHW683. POINTS. The final penalty score will be converted into a point value. Points will be awarded in each division and recorded on horse’s records. AQHA points can be earned starting at Beginner Novice Level going through Advanced Levels. The points are listed on the horse’s record and count for awards such as Register of Merit, year-end high points and also count for Incentive Fund payout; however, Beginner Novice Level is not eligible for Incentive Fund payout. AQHA recognizes high points (first through 10th) for open, amateur and youth divisions for each level, however an exhibitor/horse is only eligible to win high point award one time per level with the exception of the Advanced Level.

SCORES

USEA EVENTS 50-46 45-41 40-36 35 or less

POINT CONVERSION

Beginner Novice Level 1 2 3 4
Novice Level 1.5 3 4.5 6
Training Level 2 4 6 8
Preliminary Level 2.5 5 7.5 10
Intermediate Level 3 6 9 12
Advanced Level 4 8 12 16

[I]Beginner Novice Division
Finish on a score of 50 or less 1 Point
Finish on a score of 45 or less 2 Points
Finish on a scorre of 35 or less 3 Points

Novice Division
Finish on a score of 45 or less 1.5 Points
Finish on a score of 40 or less 2.5 Points
Finish on a score of 35 or less 3.5 Points

Training Division
Finish on a score of 50 or less 2 Points
Finish on a score of 45 or less 3 Points
Finish on a score of 35 or less 3.5 Points

Preliminary Division
Finish on a score of 55 or less 2.5 Points
Finish on a score of 45 or less 3.5 Points
Finish on a score of 40 or less 4.5 Points

Intermediate
Finish on a score of 45 or less 3 Points
Finish on a score of 55 or less 4 Points
Finish on a score of 60 or less 5 Points
Plus 1 point for completing a horse trials at this level.

Advanced
Finish on a score of 45 or less 3 Points
Finish on a score of 55 or less 4 Points
Finish on a score of 60 or less 5 Points
Plus 2 points for completing a horse trials at this level.
[/I]
Problem Statement
Problem
Quarter horses and appendix quarter horses are competing and being successful in the sport of three day eventing. However, currently there is no mechanism for eventers who ride quarter horses to earn AQHA points or to be eligible for AQHA awards. A couple examples of quarter horses competing at the highest level of eventing include the following:

• Crusader — owned by David Wilding-Davies and Russell Smith, and ridden by David Wilding Davies, this appendix quarter horse gelding rose through the ranks of eventing winning a Gold Medal at the North American Young Riders Championships in 1985

• Acapulco Jazz - competed at Rolex twice and was featured in America’s Horse Daily.

• Treaty - Julie Gomena’s appendix who won the Rolex 3 star before there was a four star

• Quartermaster - won the individual gold medal at the 1987 Pan American Games

• Such Depth – competed at the Advance Level in the USEA Area X championships and was featured in America’s Horse Daily

Solution
I would like the AQHA to consider entering into partnership with the United States Eventing Association (USEA) and United States Equestrian Federation (USEF) that would enable eventing scores at USEA sanctioned horse trials to be converted to points for AQHA recognitions, such as top ten show leaders, register of merit, superior event horse, etc. The AQHA already has a similar partnership with the United States Dressage Federation (USDF) for the conversion of dressage scores to points that has been in place since 2010. My proposal would enable those of us who ride quarter horses, and appendix quarter horses (primarily in the beginner novice through training divisions), to gain AQHA recognition of our accomplishments in eventing.
Under this proposal, the combined three day score (i.e. dressage, plus show jumping, plus cross country) would be converted to AQHA points in accordance with following thresholds per division.

I apologize for the jumbled up numbers. I tried spacing them out, but it won’t post the way I had it for some reason

Dialadream was a full QH who competed in the Olympics.

http://americashorsedaily.com/dialadream/#.VKST62K9KSM

It looks like there is a mistake - (reversal for Intermediate/Advanced - where the better you score (i.e. lower penalty points), the fewer AQHA points you get).

Also I think Crusader should be recognized for more than his success at Young Riders - the rest of his bio reads, “catapulting David onto the world stage by competing at many international competitions and being selected for World Championship and Olympic Game teams.”

I thought the same, but that was not my proposal. He wanted it to mirror how the USEA medal program was set up. My proposal mirrors the point earnings AQHA currently has set up for dressage. I would be thrilled if either proposal is approved though.

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I thought the same, but that was not my proposal. He wanted it to mirror how the USEA medal program was set up. My proposal mirrors the point earnings AQHA currently has set up for dressage. I would be thrilled if either proposal is approved though.[/QUOTE]

So…if you score worse at Advanced or Intermediate, you earn more points? But if you get a better score, you make fewer?

I’m not following here.

Hopefully he caught and corrected that before he submitted it. Again, not my proposal. Of course, I hope my point structure is the one they choose to go with for a couple of reasons. My point structure is as follows below:

…50-46…45-41…40-36…35 or less
BN…1…2…3…4
N…1.5…3…4.5…6
T…2…4…6…8
P…2.5…5…7.5…10
I…3…6…9…12
A…4…8…12…16

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Our horse, Stretch, is a registered Quarter Horse. He evented with the name Lickety Split but that is not the name on his AQHA papers. Retired now, at age 31, he still looks amazing. I believe Mike Huber started him.
Not sure this helps OP, as he is no longer active, but I will be happy to find his registration and record, if you think it would help.[/QUOTE]

Ohhh…I used to ride in the same divisions as Jamie bill, who rode that horse. We were juniors together. Great horse.

That’s kind of total balls. PLENTY of QHs and Appendixes. my barnmate has a super awesome QH she’s been leasing, and they’ve been eyeing a move up to Training. My BFF has an Appendix who is doing his first recognized Training this weekend at Pine Top, and he has the scope for upper levels for sure.

The Appendix was supposedly bred for Western Pleasure, and by a freak of nature turned out 17.3 when his lineage was all a bunch of honies. :lol::lol::lol:

I bought an Appendix QH back in 1993 as a 3 yo in GA - long road ahead as we moved etc but I ended up competing him up to Novice several years later and probably could’ve gone T (schooled T and P) but ended up selling him to a YR. He was pretty awesome - one of my friends nicknamed him ’ the flying sausage’ lol…not sure that was too much of a compliment.
I’ve seen a lot of QH type x’s out there competing (mostly P and lower.)