Straight quercetin (very econcomical) or one of these products for seasonal itch allergies? Ulta Cruz Skin Allergy contains quercetin and omega 3. Rammard Total Immune contains neucleotides, which the company said are made from microbial fermentation (not sure what they’re fermenting but they said it mimics equine colostrum). Also contains bioflavinoids (quercetin is a bioflavinoid) from a blend of a 16 bioflavinoids from citrus fruits not commonly found in the United States. One of these products, two of these products, all of these products, or none of these products? :o
Bumping. What do you use for seasonal allergies? If not these products, then which others? Thank you
I had my pony allergy tested. He went through a series of injections but did not finish them as he was very sensitive to them. Long term I think that they helped. Also knowing what he is allergic to has been beneficial in that I can avoid the triggers. If he gets hives we give him zyrtec as the vet prescribed and he has a beclomethasone inhaler for any respiratory issues that arise.
I did try a well known allergy supp but it gave him hives, so now I stay away from products with alot of ingredients, it’s easier to try and pinpoint whats giving him an issue if we keep it simple.
Have you tried feeding flax seed? Some people find this helpful. Same thing with spirulina, some people have had some success feeding this as well.
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I had my pony allergy tested. He went through a series of injections but did not finish them as he was very sensitive to them. Long term I think that they helped. Also knowing what he is allergic to has been beneficial in that I can avoid the triggers. If he gets hives we give him zyrtec as the vet prescribed and he has a beclomethasone inhaler for any respiratory issues that arise.
I did try a well known allergy supp but it gave him hives, so now I stay away from products with alot of ingredients, it’s easier to try and pinpoint whats giving him an issue if we keep it simple.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information. Poor sensitive pony. What did allergy tests show he was allergic to and then what was his bad reaction to the shots? And…which allergy supp did you try with a lot of ingredients?
Quercetin is only one ingredient.
Utra Cruz Skin Allergy contains three main: Omega DHA, Quercetin, Thymus Protein, and three non active: flax, rice bran, apple powder.
Rmmard TotalImmune: nucleotide, glutamine, bioflavinoids, Vit C, Omega 3 and 6, Zinc, Vit A, Selenium
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Have you tried feeding flax seed? Some people find this helpful. Same thing with spirulina, some people have had some success feeding this as well.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Wish either or both helped. All the horses get flax. Didn’t do anything special with this one except for making more and larger dapples than all the others. Tried spirulina, didn’t do anything.
My little guy is allergic to oats! And orchard grass,oak pollen, dust mites, flax, and mold. A few other things too, but I can’t remember off the top of my head.
When we got to a certain dosage with the shots he started to get hives and feel kinda “low” the following day. In the long run it seems to have helped.
I used the Platinum Performance allergy supplement and it gave him hives. I like there products, it was jut a case of the wrong thing for this particular pony. It might work great for a different one. Another thing we tried that did not work was Tri-hist but he developed anhydrosis after just a few doses.
I also have him on vitamin E and I think it helps a bit.
Please ignore my spelling! Still can’t edit :no:.
I use the Ultra Cruz for my gelding and his seasonal allergies. I’m not sure what he’s allergic to, but it has helped immensely with his swollen glands and chronically drippy nose.
Please, oh please, post a link to this Ultra Cruz? I’ll try anything to ease my poor gelding’s suffering
TIA
Link to Ultra Cruz?
Please, oh please, post a link to this Ultra Cruz? I’ll try anything to ease my poor gelding’s suffering
TIA
https://www.scahealth.com/scah/product/ultracruz-equine-skin-and-allergy-control-horse-supplement
I use it for my retiree who has sweet itch. I also give him niacinamide. Both seem to help.
Another possibility is Uckele’s Phyto-Quench. It also has quercetin in it
and bromelain. The Quercetin/Bromelain combo works better together. P-Q has a number of anti-inflamnatory ingredients. It’s been good for my horses lungs and his arthritis. I also used the Q & B combo for my own joints and found it really helped with my allergies. I would also suggest adding flax seed.
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Another possibility is Uckele’s Phyto-Quench. It also has quercetin in it
and bromelain. The Quercetin/Bromelain combo works better together. P-Q has a number of anti-inflamnatory ingredients. It’s been good for my horses lungs and his arthritis. I also used the Q & B combo for my own joints and found it really helped with my allergies. I would also suggest adding flax seed.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting this. P-Q’s main ingredient is citrus bioflavonoids (5000mg), compared to Ramards Total Immune which contains only (1500mg). Vitamin C and Bioflavs work together as antioxidants. P-Q has (4000mg), while TI has only (1500mg). Citrus bioflavonoids have high antioxidant levels, which helps the immune system fight off invaders, lessens allergic response by decreasing histamines. Quercetin is also a bioflavonoid. It comes from onions, acts like an anti viral and also inhibits histamine response. Bromelain is an anti inflammatory that comes from pineapple.
The one different and interesting ingredient of TI is nucleotides, which strengthens the immune system. The company said they are similar to colostrum. In horse supps, the source is usually a yeast culture and is called saccharomyces cerevisiae. I posted some info in the post about ‘curing ulcers so easy’ or whatever the title is, where Fairview Horse Center said they’ve fed yeast for ulcers with great success.
I had my itchy horse who also had mild hives allergy tested. He was allergic to a bunch of stuff including alfalfa (which I removed from his diet), gnats (which wander in giant clusters in our ring), rice bran, orchard grass, wool, some plants, and a medley of other stuff.
We started on the allergy shots in December. The itchiness stopped and the hives started disappearing. When he would get the shots he would get itchy for about a day. I don’t think he’s even doing that any more.
For my horse with severe seasonal allergies, I tried dex - worked a little but did not eliminate hives and detrimental to leave on long-term. Tried APF, didn’t do anything other than empty my wallet. Tried Total Immune from Ramard - minimal improvement. My horse was on stabilized ground flax meal - made no difference. Tried Missing Link Skin and Coat and after 3 days the hives were gone and have not come back. This horse had massive hives for over 3 months.
Why kind of flax did you try? As I learned, there is a massive difference in “flax” and we tend to use that term generically. Flaxseed meal is the by-product of processing the oil out of the flax and much of the omega-3 content is lost due to this. Flax meal is stable and cheap which is why many of us have fed it. However, whole ground flaxseed is not a by-product. It is what it says, whole flaxseeds that have been ground up. Missing Link uses freshly ground flaxseed and this is what made the difference for my horse. With the Missing Link, they nitrogen flush the bags to help preserve the flax and to maintain the maximum nutrients from the flaxseed as well.
Wishing you the best of luck with your horse!
For my horse with severe seasonal allergies, I tried dex - worked a little but did not eliminate hives and detrimental to leave on long-term. Tried APF, didn’t do anything other than empty my wallet. Tried Total Immune from Ramard - minimal improvement. My horse was on stabilized ground flax meal - made no difference. Tried Missing Link Skin and Coat and after 3 days the hives were gone and have not come back. This horse had massive hives for over 3 months.
Why kind of flax did you try? As I learned, there is a massive difference in “flax” and we tend to use that term generically. Flaxseed meal is the by-product of processing the oil out of the flax and much of the omega-3 content is lost due to this. Flax meal is stable and cheap which is why many of us have fed it. However, whole ground flaxseed is not a by-product. It is what it says, whole flaxseeds that have been ground up. Missing Link uses freshly ground flaxseed and this is what made the difference for my horse. With the Missing Link, they nitrogen flush the bags to help preserve the flax and to maintain the maximum nutrients from the flaxseed as well.
Wishing you the best of luck with your horse!