Questionable Tactics During Belmont Run

As others have asked:
PLEASE give a rest! WHO are these YouTube “experts” Fox TV? Seems like it.:confused:

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In the first Kentucky Derby, Aristides was supposed to be the “rabbit” for Chesapeake.

We all know who won.

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And lets not forget 1933 Derby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF-q_kKAO_8

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I understand the role of a rabbit. Poor choice of words. My post was just stating the strategies are applied in most races whether it be to draw out another horse too soon, slow the pace, clear a path, etc. I do agree, in a race as long as the Belmont, you’d have to be a pretty bad jockey to get boxed in.

Unless you’re doing it to fix the race.

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How do you fix a race so the 3-5 favorite wins??? (or whatever the odds were). That’s quite the allegation considering the number of eyes on the race and the caliber of riders and horses. And how do you make money when the heavy favorite wins???

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On exactas, trifectas and superfectas. When Bravazo and Tenfold didn’t show, a lot of punters were pretty peeved.

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:eek::eek: You’re a flat earther aren’t you?

What is your hang up with Justify?

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I still don’t understand how Restoring Hope’s trip set the stage for Gronkowski to place, but not Bravazo or Tenfold. Explain?

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Restoring Hope ran crazy wide into the first turn and not a single horse went up to challenge Justify. Everyone knows that a Bob Baffert horse set in PP#1 is going to go for the lead to control the pace and stay out of traffic. If Justify didn’t, he would’ve gotten boxed in. So with that being said; how come not a single horse went for it and challenged him? The only one to do it was Good Magic in the Preakness and they really made him earn it. There were 3 or 4 horses in between Justify and RH in the gate and half of them sucked back out of the gate. Again, none of them even went for it. Bravazo and Noble Indy both just sat there despite given plenty of opportunity to make a move

If RH’s race tactic was to play the role of a blocker; I think it was a pretty poor execution. RH was dragging Goroux around the 2nd turn and its not like the pace was slow. they were blistering through the first fractions. Even into the far turn when RH started to fade; no one put pressure on anyone. So if they want to gripe about it; they need to start looking at what their own plan was.

I just cant get over the move made by Gronkowski in the far turn and in to the stretch. It’s just plain insanity the amount of ground he covered.

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Wasn’t Gronkowski last for a good portion of the race?
I hope that horse keeps racing for a while. It would be interesting to see how he does. I love game horses.

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yes dead last until the far turn when he started blowing by the field.

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If you are referring to this year’s Belmont, please go crawl in a hole and stay there!!!
Saying it wasn’t a great race is ridiculous.

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This!! RH wasn’t in any position to block another horse for crying out loud. The people bitchin, are just pointing fingers everywhere except at their own horse/rider that couldn’t make the grade.

@BlueLodge give it a freaking rest. We know you have it bad for Justify & his connections, but there is no conspiracy or fixing going on. SMH

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Rabbits blazing to the front to wear down competition and their opposites who go to the front and slow down the pace to fool others into thinking it’s a faster pace then it is to setup another horse have been around since before DWL was coaching basketball or even born. Sometimes it’s really just their running style and not a plan.

Used to be horses with common ownership or management were coupled in the entries ( 3A, 3B for example). Now they are independent but race strategy is unchanged. If this race featured a sacrificial rabbit, it was the slowest one I’ve ever seen and served no purpose in the race. The horse won fair and square.

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Like Blames’ peoples fixed the 2011 BC - ‘fixed the race’ so Zenyatta lost, right? <rme/smh>

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I owned a racebred Appaloosa who was a descendant of Broker’s Tip.

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Reminds me of the old Northern California favorite, Silky Sullivan, who did that in the Santa Anita Derby in his year (and in a lot of other races). He went to Kentucky, but didn’t show much in the Derby. Someone once referred to him as a “delayed action Quarter Horse.” He’d loaf along at the rear of the pack - and then some, them thrown in a 1/4 mile at blazing speed. Sometimes it was enough, other times, not. Beautiful horse, though.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q…5C13&FORM=VIRE

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Love this! What a horse (actually with that 'tude and appetite perhaps he was part pony!) Thanks for posting! Before my time, but I think our grandparents had better horse racing and better music. Legends were born on both sides of the Atlantic. Awesome.

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I was in L.A. during Silky’s racing time. He was fun to watch–and those were the days when racing was on TV every Saturday afternoon for the featured race. Saw him advertised at stud for many years on a stallion page that featured all sorts of breeds of stallions. Think his stud fee at that time was around $500 LFG. Anyway, he was a fun horse to watch.

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