Questions on Club Foot - Update with X-Rays - Update *Hoof pictures!

A few more pictures of Sirrey and his foot. The top picture is surgery day mid August and the bottom pic is Dec 7th. The new growth is amazing and looking sooo good!! I couldn’t be happier with the progress. Now he is due for a trim and of course he just lost his shoe the other day, but farrier comes out tomorrow to re trim him and put his shoe back on.
He is literally 1.5 years old (as of the 6th) and I’m very happy on how he’s maturing. He’s my first home bred horse and it took me years to be able to breed him and pick the right mare. I’m hoping the bump at the surgery site will go down (the surgeon said it will go down over time as he’s growing) and I just purchased a red light therapy leg wrap and I’m just waiting for it to arrive so I can see if it will help. He also has some white hair where he was bandaged burned, but those don’t bother me too much. Nothing a little black spray can’t cover :wink:

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Wow! Happy for you two!

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That’s a big change! That’s great! He’s a lovely looking baby :slightly_smiling_face:

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Might be a good listen on the subject:

He’s so pretty. Good luck!

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that is SO fantastic!

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Thank you for sharing - that new hoof growth is so good and tight!!! And that is a very good looking young horse!

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Truly an amazing change for the better!

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Another update on my coming 2 year old and his club foot, and this is 7 months (almost to the date) since his check ligament desmotomy. The old foot has almost all grown out now and its looking almost “normal”. Of course it will always be a bit smaller that the other hoof, but I can’t believe the difference.

He does have a bump higher up on his leg at the incision site (I forgot to take a picture of it but its hard to see/show up in a photo) but it has gone down quite a bit in the past couple of months. I do use a red light therapy wrap on it every day and I’m not sure if its working or if its going down because he is growing and its just healing. It doesnt bother me to put the wrap on when he’s eating his grain though, so I will continue to do it for now.

The bump was golf ball sized in December before I got the wrap, and now it just looks like he’s popped a splint (though I know its not). He does have white hair on his shin from some of the old bandage burns, but that doesn’t bother me too much as its just cosmetic. I can always just spray it if I ever line show him.

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Wow!!

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I second - Wow!

That looks amazing.

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This is awesome!

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I hope you treat your farrier like royalty (I’m sure you do.) :blush:

Beautiful job, and beautiful colt!

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So nice to read a success story!

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Thanks for sharing the update and the more recent photos. That is amazing! :+1:

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My mare’s surgery was 10 years ago and she still has a tiny bump and a few white scars. It’s not unsightly or anything and she is prone to easily getting swollen for everything. Glad he’s healed so well! His hoof looks great!!

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I just wanted to update this thread as there has been some interesting updates/finds/questions from myself and my vet.

He is now a coming 3 year old and I’m about to get him started. I had the vet out on friday to look at his teeth to make sure there were no wolf teeth and to remove any sharp edges (if any) before he went for training. I asked her to look at his leg as well as he still has quite a large looking lump at the incision site. His hoof of course looks amazing and is 100% normal, so surgery was a success.

The vet did not like that the “lump” was still so large (and only at the incision site - outside left) so she wanted to come back on Tuesday (yesterday) to ultrasound the leg and then compare the ultrasound from when the surgery was done 2 years ago. She wanted his surgeon to look at the ultrasound as well to give her opinion on it. My vet said she didn’t like the look of the tissue surrounding the incision site and said it “looked angry”. Just that it never healed well and it looks like it was performed a few weeks ago, not 2 years ago. She was very interested to hear what the surgeon thought though. She even thought that perhaps he had an allergic reaction to the sutures after surgery which is why he healed so poorly, who knows? Note - horse has not been worked but is totally sound running around and bopping around like a 3 year old should in turnout.

Note on this boy - he always heals up poorly from any cut, scrape, bump etc. He always balloons up, has lots of scaring and lots of drama at a cuts site, no matter how small the scape is. His gelding was terrible as a yearling and he bled and drained with blood clots letting loose for days - drained for over a week (I’ve had lots of gelding performed and none drained/bled for this long. It was alarming to me and I had the vet called back out at the time, but he did heal eventually on his own).

Surgeon was not too concerned about the bad tissue, but she has been doing this type of surgery and has never had this issue - she was very happy with how his hoof looked though. He is the first for her to scar so badly. Her suggestion was to hold off on training for a month, do shockwave 3 x (each one week apart) to see if the tissue can be broken up a bit and heal a little better. Then ultrasound it again on week 4 and see if it looks any better. He really has both vets scratching their heads on the poor healing. My vet even suggested that he may have a collagen deficiency which is why he has such a hard time healing from any little thing and is something to take note of incase of any other surgeries needed in the future.

Thing to note, which really maybe nothing but has me wondering (I texted this to the vet last night but she hasn’t got back to me yet) was that his sire was a WFFS carrier. I had the mare tested before I bred and she was negative. I know my guy can’t have WFFS or he would not have faired well at all as a foal of course, but when I looked up WFFS, it did mention that foals have collagen deficiency - funny that my vet mentioned this but she didn’t know that his sire was a carrier for WFFS at the time. I really have no idea if its related or not, but its interesting, thats for sure.

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Oh ya that is pretty massive for two years out. I hope you get some answers and that it’s all cosmetic.

Talk about a handsome guy!!!

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What a lovely horse he is!

It’s interesting that you bring up WFFS because I’m not sure that we truly know the effects, if any, of breeding a carrier to a non carrier. I remember a discussion about this awhile back, but I’m not sure if there have been any developments since then. I can imagine that some breeders don’t want there to be further investigation into that matter. Could be unrelated, but as you said, it is interesting.

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That’s…interesting!

The collagen issue with FFS-affected horses is, like you said, catastrophic at birth, or even before then. To my knowledge, while some have wondered and even theorized, there aren’t direct effects from being a carrier. Given how intense the research into finding the origins of this in the last several years, how many current stallions have been tested, stallions into their teens and competing, one would think that someone would have made a connection to some sort of health issue. I haven’t seen anything to that effect.

Does that mean it’s 100% a non-issue? Not yet :slight_smile:

FWIW, my TB mare also tends to react bigger than normal to scrapes and bumps on her legs, and since her Lyme diagnosis 2 years ago, big reactions to ticks.

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I just got a quote back from my vets for 3 shockwave sessions and 1 ultrasound. Cost is $2700 (tax included) which really surprised me. This is more than the actual surgery was. It might not even work and that’s a lot of $ to put on something that may make 0 difference. I really have to think on the next step as I’m not made of $!

To be honest, I don’t know a lot about shockwave but I’ve been reading up on it.

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