Hello, I am in the preliminary stages of gathering information on breeding my mare, and was hoping the more experienced people on this board could help, please! Depending on what stallion/stallion line is chosen, I plan to try and get my mare approved by the appropriate studbook.
I have a very big-boned 10yo 16.3h Thoroughbred mare who is doing well in dressage (Storm Cat x Kennedy Road). Photos should be viewable in a folder at the link below. All photos are recent, except the loose trotting picture on grass, which was taken when she was just 4 years old.
She naturally uses her back when she moves, and rounds up during the trot and canter, and engages her hind legs well, and thus has unusually big gaits for a TB. She is in general a very friendly and happy horse that is quite bold/dominant in temperament (alpha mare of alpha mares), and is very hot in terms of being sensitive and forward to the aids, and is intolerant of unclear or bad riding, but she is not spooky at all. She can work all day long if she has a trusting/respected relationship with the rider. Because she is so sensitive, I would say she is a professional ride (I am ex-pro/semi-pro).
Per the attached photos, I think you will see that she does not look much like a TB, but her major weaknesses (in my opinion) are that her back is a bit long, her loin area could be strengthened, and she could be a lot more uphill with a slightly longer neck. (Please feel free to comment on other things you see). She definitely does not need more size or bone. She is very wide through the chest and back–she wears an XW-XXW saddle with a hoop tree!
Despite her weaknesses, in my humble opinion, I think she has many positive and fairly unusual traits worth preserving, and therefore her genes could benefit future dressage sporthorse breeding, but if I bred her, I’d keep the offspring for myself, not to sell. Although I love riding her personally despite her sensitivity, I believe that dampening the hotness/sensitivity in future offspring would definitely be a plus.
My “ideal” dressage horse is epitomized by the young mare Fiontini, whom I understand is a daughter of Fassbinder (Furst Heinrich) and a Blue Hors Romanov mare.
She seems to have a lot of the happy confidence and work ethic and size of my mare, but with of course much more natural elasticity and uphill self-carriage, and she also seems much less hot. I’ve never seen her in person of course, so I can’t say for sure, but she certainly looks very rideable in videos. Most importantly, I really like Fiontini’s hind leg. She engages her hind legs and brings them underneath herself in a way I’ve not often seen in a young horse. She also seems very well balanced naturally.
In comparison, I am not as impressed with her full embryo transfer sister, Fiontina, as she seems much hotter and also has a tendency to fall on her forehand, and her hind leg is not as active as Fiontini’s.
Of course, I know that we are only speaking in generalities here, but to help further my education/research on the different lines, please, here are my questions:
Do you think it’s the Fassbinder/Furst Heinrich/Florestan side that makes Fiontini so elastic and engaged? Or is it the Blue Hors Romanov? Or do both lines tend to produce active movers with quick hind legs? Again, I don’t know the warmblood lines that well, but I’m trying to do my research.
Does anyone have any comments on the temperament and rideability of either the F-line or the Blue Hors Romanov lines?
Does anyone have any opinions on how either of these lines crosses with Thoroughbreds? Especially because my mare is already so hot but does not need more size/bone.
I’ve definitely admired Florestan and Furst Heinrich for a long time, and it is tragic about the latter’s untimely early death. I thought I saw online that Fassbinder is now a gelding? If so, what would be some comparable F-line stallions? I know Furst Romancier supposedly is not recommended for a heavy/large mare.
Thank you so much in advance for any help or insight you can provide!!!