No need to be condescending. Your responses and some of the other ones just prove what I know to be true… People are more likely to be extreme in their views and how they carry out a conversation when they read written words than if they heard someone say it. That’s nice isn’t it? So you’re more likely to be nasty with something you see written than something you heard said. .so if you can see the human, you can feel where they are coming from, but if you just read it, you’re more likely to be [nasty].
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Is there an ignore button in this forum that I have yet to find?
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Wow, just wow. Good luck finding any employer to put up with you.
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I enjoy aspects of it, not every thing. My main issue is with the people I work with. I have a manager who says things like I’m going to kill so and so, any idiot can do what you’re doing and so on… Just very shaming in the way she speaks to us juniors.
I also wish I could pick and chose the projects I work with. I don’t agree ethically with some of the projects we pick up so it can feel like I’m going against my morals sometimes.
I definitely think your best course of action is just to start your own business. Not everyone is cut out to work with other people.
a barn job or any job in the horse industry or any customer service related field is not for you.
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The truth hurts, doesn’t it?
I’ll decide what is right for me and what is not, thank you very much 
I’ve heard your opinion several times o this thread, if you feel like you need to further spend time on this thread repeating the same kind of comments, I’d rather do it over video through a live session.
I think at this juncture the best course of action for you is as I said earlier: let this screen name go and come back as a different person.
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This is actually painful.
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Again I decide how I carry on, online and in person. Thanks for your concern over my screen name… I guess.
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So in the work place not everyone is going to be your friend and unfortunately we do need to figure out how to work with people we don’t necessarily like.
You will never be able to pick and choose the work working for someone else unless you become that good. That is further down the road.
Honestly working in the barn as a working student or otherwise would not be a good fit for you. You do not have the personality for it.
There is no ignore function here. People are not being condescending they are speaking truthfully. No one will sugar coat things for you here. You are in the real world where you are going to be told in many different ways that you suck when you suck.
You need to take a hard look at yourself, what you want to do for work and how you interact with people. You honestly are a walking stereo type right now for millennials and that is not a good thing.
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This is how 1984 happens :lol::lol::lol:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Hey my first unapproved post was a bunch of :eek::eek::eek::eek:
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But how can you decide if its for you if you don’t know anything about it? I’ve bitten my tongue this entire thread, but it seems to me like you have developed this agrarian-lifestyle-barn-worker fantasy. I completely get how easy it is to be stuck at a desk and daydream about a better life, but we also need to do some research to back it up.
FYI, I’m making the assumption that perhaps you don’t have a ton of horse experience based on your use of “groomer” to refer to grooms.
I’ve been a barn worker in multiple barns and a client at several more. Here’s the thing: very, very few barn managers/owners will give a crap about your well being. Unfortunately, you’ve never worked in the industry and you appear to little experience, so you can kiss any hopes of the Beezie Madden gig linked upthread or really any show groom position goodbye. There are some great positions (I had one!), but the vast majority are not, and even more so when you have no relevant experience.
Being a groom is putting the horse, the client and the trainer ahead of yourself every day, and smiling while you do it. If you can’t hack it, you’ll get kicked to the curb very quickly.
There’s a reason why turnover is so high in this industry - it’s because grooms get chewed up and spit out everyday.
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That’s a great idea. Instead of being the cog in the machine, instead you can be the entire machine and have to do the job of 6 cogs at once all the while being solely responsible for your own ability to feed, clothe, and house yourself.
that is DEFINITELY more fun than getting to go home every day at 5 without another care in the world.
says she with the big-deal consulting job in which I make not one whit of difference to anybody from which I go home to shovel the shit in the barn that job pays for.
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I’m sort of dying to know the details on where and how people enjoyed such idylic freedoms and life before the industrial revolution? Is this excluding the unpredictable years that the weather didn’t co-operate and masses died off from things like famine or disease or war?
Nothing to do with being behind a keyboard here, I enjoy hearing and debating the very odd things my peers come up with in person or online.
I actually take my advice back though. Working in a barn at hard manual labor might be a great idea to adjust your world view and help you appreciate your current luxuries. Spoken from experience. :winkgrin:
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It’s great to have dreams, desires, and goals for your future. It’s good to care about your work and be invested in it. It is less good not to be able to afford food or rent. The world does not owe you anything; you have to invest the time and effort to create your ideal future. No one else can do that for you.
Many posters here are older than you and have more lived experience. I think we all (ok, most) are trying to share lessons we’ve learned the hard way in the hopes you don’t have to go through something similar. Make of that what you will…
Might I suggest that if you’re constantly unhappy with the other employees at every job you have, that the problem might not be with the other employees? And remember, you can’t control other people, only your reactions to them. I’ve found I’m happier if I can find common ground with people I might not otherwise choose to be around.
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I wish I could say the same but honestly… my bread and butter is this age group. Once you get over wanting to help (in the offer-real-world-suggestions way*), the next stage is banging your mental head against a mental wall, after that is watching and cleaning up the mess.
*we still offer assistance and have cards and sheets of social services we hand out…
