You know, I’m almost sorry that I have decided to retire from breeding. I’d REALLY like to have a couple more of these Rubignon foals!
I have a lovely filly by Rubinus. She is well conformed and a beautifull mover. I would say more hunter-y movement than dressage but very balanced. She has a better canter and walk than trot in the pasture as a two year old, but I haven’t even had the chance to see her in an arena or roundpen so that could just be that she prefers to canter in the field. Her dam was a very good mover as well. She has a very pretty/typey head, which Rubinus does as well.
Medium build and bone, I imagine she’ll mature to about 16.2.
She has a very good temperment, alert but kind and willing. Very smart (as was her mother).
I am very pleased with her.
Just wanted to add that I have also seen a few other Rotspon offspring (about 15 or so over the years) aside from the youngsters I have bred and none of them were cribbers. I saw a couple in Germany that were more on the sensitive side but neither cribbed and they both had excellent temperaments and rideability. Body type and size can vary somewhat but he is most definitely consistent in the mind and movement department and they are good looking too!
I have a lovely 2012 Rubignon colt out of an AHS Elite Mare (Loerke daughter). He is my third foal, first by Rubignon, and definitely the most easy and people-loving foal so far. A very personable and attractive foal for sure. I had a colt by Regazzoni last year out of the same mare that was very nice as well. The Rubignon colt has a gorgeous head (also helps that his dam, an overall “8” mare, got a “9” for her head at inspection) and he is also very well conformed. Just got a confirmed pregnancy on my Londontime mare to Rubignon for a 2013 foal. Love what he brings to the table!
I have a Regazzoni (Rubenstein) mare who I just love. Elite mare with the AHS, excellent scores as a 4 year old at Dressage at Devon, and is now about to start a hunter career. She has a phenomenal brain under saddle and around the barn and just a joy to work with. She is extremely correct and physically gorgeous, with an amazing jump and great movement. She also is a great mom-had her first foal in April, a colt by Apiro who got all of her great traits. Her only negative is she has a bit short pasterns and her hind end could be bigger, she is quite a stout girl even at 16.2h. I will never sell this mare and if i could I’d sleep in her stall with her.
I love this line!!
Regazzoni sired Ragtime and he has produced some lovely hunters, especially via Sue Lightner. Pretty and can jump!
Regazzoni sired Ragtime, the sire of a number of very good show hunters and nationally ranked hunter breeding champions, especially via Sue Lightner.
I think Mistysmom hit the nail on the head when she said that people have used some tough mares against the R-line in hopes to get easier horses. Just doesn’t always work. (I wouldn’t breed a mare that wasn’t easy anyway.)
I also haven’t seen an cribbers by Rotspon & I’ve seen a bunch of Rotspons.
You can view some of mine on my link below. The first 3 pics are of last years filly, the last 3 pics are of a day old filly that is now about 8 yrs, & the black gelding was a fat 3 yr old in his pic. All plus one I don’t have on there are fabulous movers with lots of knee, hock & back action. Loads of movement. Takes good riders just due to the suspension & thrust of their gaits. Of course lots of this comes from their mother.
Almost all the Rubinstein line horses I have known have been “pocket ponies”. Whether direct offspring of Rubinstein himself, or from his sons or grandsons (Rohdiamant, Routinier, Regazzoni, Rosenthal, Rotspon, etc., etc.), or from his daughters or granddaughters, they have as a group been kind and gentle in nature, very people oriented, and quite mellow and generous under saddle.
This line seems to be fading out a bit in Europe - mostly because it doesn’t tend to produce big moving international type horses - but it is a great line for ammy friendly mounts for dressage or hunters.
If we can preserve the best of the “R” line and the best of the “G” line, maybe Europe will come here to restock! Always optimistic!
Does the R and G lines cross well? I love the R line and really like it crossed with W but I’m not very familiar with G lines. I now own a wonderful G line mare that has really made me sit up and take notice of this wonderful line of horses.
I think Edgar Schutte or someone who has tried this cross more than once should step in here and answer! I’ve not tried the cross.
I would imagine that Mo Swanson would be a good one to ask. She’s bound to have tried this cross more than once on the Gold Luck daughters in her band.
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My mare is Edgar bred and he did suggest his Pablito stallion for her (a very proven cross) but I guess it comes down to what type of foal I want as well as what would be the best cross for her. I haven’t really decided yet since I’m a dressage rider and don’t jump.
Just thought I’d add abut my Rotspon mare. She is not a cribber in the least.
She is super easy to handle on the ground and generally has good manners (although can be a bit pushy when it comes to food/ treats). She was the easiest horse to start under saddle…just total go with the flow.
She is a mare that demands attention and is alpha in a herd. She can also be a bit hard headed under saddle…never in a dangerous way, just a “mare” way. With a professional rider she is ALWAYS responsive. With me, a true AA rider, she will try to get away with being lazy but will give in if I demand the work.
Ultimately for me she is a perfect riding horse. I feel safe on her but she is not so easy that I don’t learn to really ride.
At her MPT she had the highest gait scores of any mare tested that year. Unfortunately she did terrible through the jump chute so we did not win Champion mare:( For years I thought it was that she did not have the jumping ability, but as I learn more and more I feel it was due to me providing her with poor training on the jump chute before the testing.
A little late in my response… Agree with majority of the comments above. We have produced numerous R-line offspring by Rotspon, Rascalino and Rubinero. Two of the R-line mares were top of the AHS Mare Performance Test awards and are doing exceptionally well in performance (one as a hunter and the other in dressage). We find that quality of gaits, temperament and presence is consistently impressive. Of course, the dam influence is also a huge factor. 
Size, conformation, gaits and jumping talent of our R-line youngsters seems to come from the dams. We are keeping two Rotspon mares as performance broodmares. (Remain in Performance, produce via Embryo Transfer). Coincidentally, both of these performance broodmares have W-line elite dams. We bred to Rotspon again for 2013 and are expecting another Rotspon filly out of a D-line Elite dam.
I have a Rubinstein mare who is a total love bug. (out of a SPS Warkant dam). Gorgeous movement 9,9,8 MPT movement scores, very fertile mare. She can be a pita kicking while in a stall when other horses are in the barn but that’s really her only quirk. Her foals are all very nice and her 2nd foal (can’t find her first one), is already doing PSG and placing at Regional Championships. Her younger foals are just starting their show careers but are all gorgeous. I definitely want the R line in my horses.
My other mare is a Sinatra Song / Rotspon and also has gorgeous loose movement from the dam line. MPT scores are TBD hopefully in October but I think she’ll do well.
Nobody cribs at all.
I have 2 R line foals, a 2011 intact colt by Royal Prince and a 2012 filly by Roi du Soleil (both out of the same Pablo - Gold Luck mare).
Both are the easiest foals I have ever had in regards to friendly temperament, taking EVERYTHING in stride, just super easy to train, and beautiful. Super both at home and when taken away from home. I would take them 100X over, they are such nice movers (not hugely flamboyant, but 3 quality gaits and especially an exceptional walk and canter). The colt was Top Colt at his AHS inspection at Hilltop Farm and the filly was a Foal of Distinction and Premium at her GOV inspection.
Royal Prince is Rohdiamant - Prince Thatch.
Roi du Soleil is linebred top and bottom to Rubenstein (sire line: Rosandro - Rosario - Rubenstein) and on dam line through Rohdiamant.
http://www.horsetelex.com//horses/pedigree/637163
You know I LOVE your colt, Kris! Oh, if only I didn’t produce foals myself…!
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We’ve only tried it once and the resulting colt was born 2011, so he’s still very young. Not sure if it’s still interesting?
