Racehorsemeds Pentosan quality suspicion

I’m not sure why you think racehorsemeds is a “registered pharma company.” They’ve been selling illegally for years, with the FDA warning letters to prove it.

A medication can provide the same active ingredient–pentosan polysulfate sodium–and have different inactive ingredients brand to brand. That’s not even particularly weird.

Your edited post is certainly looks a lot less like libel than what you started with 👍

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Here. This is a real, actual, non-compounded, non back alley version of pentosan that is clear.

https://www.grovet.com/anarthron-10-ml.html

That was not very hard.

indeed, best to keep it generalized for the 10% chance that I’m wrong.

All I can offer is statistical observation…

@Simkie

I checked the sheet on this manufacturer you posted (very obscure) - Eurovet.
It’s in dutch, so I translated it:

"
A clear, colorless to slightly yellow, aqueous solution for subcutaneous administration."

Not to mention they are obscure next to the pharmacies I outline above. See for yourself in their PDF: http://bijsluiters.fagg-afmps.be/Dow…vlet?id=213972

So far no one could refute its yellow nature :slight_smile:

They seem to be a distributor of Cartrophen in Europe… As seen on the Cartropen site distribution list: http://www.cartrophen.com/about-us/distributors/

Real Carthrophen looks like that:
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Yes, they say it’s a clear colorless solution. As is pictured. As you say is impossible.

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Their parent supplier (Carthrophen) is producing Amber pentosan
Eurovet is better than their original supplier ?

Hence the validity of my question… Statistically, all large brands create amber pentosan…

If it can change to colorless due to mixing and conditions, one might ask, why not copy the conditions of the large firms that are monitored by the FDA ?

But that’s just me

It’s pretty clear (hahahaha) that you’re not willing to consider any possibility but the one you’re wedded to, even when you copy a source that states the possibility of a clear solution.

Call Wedgewood and ask. No one but you seems to be concerned about this 🤷

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You misunderstood the core of the discussion,
The question is:

If all major manufacturers (ones with a website, unlike the one you posted that has no records in english) produce amber pentosan, what is it that makes generic pentosan clear ? Are they mixing it wrong ? Alternatively, do they have purer, better Pentosan than the big pharma brands ? Also a possibility.

If no one else is concerned then superb- you didn’t see me with signs outside the factories protesting instead of going to work have you ? I’m here on Corona Quarantine having coffee posting for free. If someone finds this useful then great

Stay safe guys and good evening - That will be all for today :slight_smile:

Dude, the inactive ingredients are very likely different. Why is that such a difficult concept?

You have a source–that you quoted–that says it can be clear. Your own pictures range from very light yellow to amber.

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹This seems to be a whole lot over nothing.

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Why don’t you just use one of the brands that is, in your opinion, the correct color?

My bet is also on different inactive ingredients or some difference in the method of compounding.

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I know what I will use,
Thanks !

I agree, each will inject the Pentosan color of his liking…
I guess we have concluded the thread.

Safe riding yall

FWIW, I use another Kinetic Vet product (Ichon) and last year when I reordered, it arrived a different colour. I was also concerned about using it, as I’d never seen a colour change after several years of ordering the product. I took a photo of the old vs new vials side by side, and emailed it to Kinetic Vet.

They replied and explained that it was a different supplier of an ingredient - domestic vs overseas. Still safe to use.

Perhaps this is the same type of change you’re seeing.

And also, the one time I got Pentosan, it was also clear and colourless.

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According to the FDA pentosan (at least the human grade) is a white powder. In the case of the specific manufacturer they list, the color is added (D&C yellow # 10 among others)

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugs…193s004lbl.pdf

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Fabulous find. All this hubbub over a color additive :lol: :lol:

Once again, due to lack of attention, you get excited too soon without reading carefully.

From the FDA: “Injection: No color additive may be used in injections unless its listing in the regulations specifically provides for such use.”

And so, the link above showing DC #10 is for an oral product, that is allowed, not is any color additive in any proper injection. (They paint the capsule with it so you can distinguish it from your diabetes medication or whatever)

So no, the companies that sell Pentosan for 400$ do not paint it yellow.
It’s not yellow per se, you can still see through it, but it is tinted yellow
Hence “a clear, staw-pale yellow solution”

Who did you get the one-time of pentosan from?
Wedgewood ? If not wedgewood then I’d love to hear, this could prove me wrong if a big factory produced clear Pentosan and could end the discussion (with me losing, but at peace of mind)
I used KineticVet Pentosan, it was distinctly yellow tinted.

@SolarFlare

How go you explain the description of pentosan as a white powder?

The source that you copied and pasted here states:

A clear, colorless to slightly yellow, aqueous solution for subcutaneous administration.

Colorless. Colorless TO slightly yellow. Colorless is an option. Devoid of all color. It can be a clear, colorless solution. It can also be a clear, slightly yellow solution. If it HAD to be yellow, COLORLESS would not be a word in that sentence.

Also, racehorsemeds does not operate under FDA guidelines at all, and does not care one whit what they say. That’s why you can buy prescription meds there without a script.

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Sorry, gotta say it…clear is not a colour. A true solution is clear; a sodium hydroxide (NaOH) or hydrochloric acid (HCl) is clear and colourless. The pentosan solution is clear and amber.

Lol, carry on! :smiley:

Ooops, didn’t see Simkie’s post!

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Yes, Larbear and Simke are both correct. Clear is not a color. Think about dyeing Easter eggs. Once you add the dye to the water you have clear, colored solutions. Students often find this confusing when making observations in chem lab.

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