Racehorsemeds Pentosan quality suspicion

Anyone with Racehorsemeds Pentosan ?

Something is odd with their Pentosan.

Pentosan is ALWAYS AMBER- It is the nature of the API and always been like that in other brands.
Racehorse meds Pentosan (all variations of it) are 100% clear.

What is it ? Any explanations

My Pentosan is clear but I don’t get it from there. I seriously doubt it is poison however or there would be thousands of dead horses

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If a properly mixed Pentosan can be fully clear, then I will apologize.
I talked to a chemist/pharmacist that makes those and he told me it’s always amber if properly made.

You have to balance the PH when preparing it with something else other than water, and if not done then it’s not made properly.

For comparison, Kinetic Vet brand Pentosan was orange/yellow like in the top pic (Arthropen). And it was the same pure pentosan.

The human FDA version of it, is also amber (Pentosan SP54)

Here is the Kinetic Vet (costs maybe x5 racehorse meds, which lead me to try racehorsemeds in the first place… but…)

I am no chemist/pharmacist but I’m not sure I’d be making a claim like this based solely on a visual inspection without getting the suspect drug actually tested.

JMO

I agree, no problem.

Edited original post to embrace my newly acquired self-doubt… :slight_smile:

You have to agree with me that the changes in color do spark suspicion though ?
Testing it would be 200$, so I’m not sure i’m up for the task but maybe if someone works with a compounder and can ask for his opinion that would be sweet.

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I have been using Pentosan for a better part of a decade. I get mine compounded from Wedgewood. It comes in an amber bottle so I assume it may be somewhat light sensitive.

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So that is one vote against my theory Laurie , Wedgewood are supposed to be good indeed !

Still doesn’t explain why big-pharma type brands produce Amber Pentosan, but I’ll try to talk to some pharmacists and understand why the difference.

My pentosan from my vet, compounded by a pharmacy he trusts, is clear.

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We also get compounded pentosan from a big name company via our vet and it is clear.

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Am I right to say that Wedgewood makes all of your Pentosans ?
They are indeed good, all I am saying is, it’s worth to phone them and ask why pharma brands(factory pentosan) produce orange Pentosan. Maybe there’s a good answer, and maybe we are on to something :slight_smile:

Always good to ask.

It’s like Vitamin B12 injection… They are red.
If I got clear B12 I’d be asking questions, it’s just my nature.

Is it @Peggy who is the chemist?

There may be multiple ways to synthesize this product, that could lead to different color solutions. That would be an easy explanation here.

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It could also be that they make it amber to protect it from light where Wedgewood and the like protects it from light with the amber bottle. Glad to see you have back off your ridiculous poison theory however OP.

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Yep, didn’t want any big claims preventing me from a scientific answer… we will wait and see

I’ll give a vote against Wedgewoods compounding. Different drug though.

Ordered liquid prednisolone from them for my late mare, 300mg/ml. Round after round of the stuff and nothing would change in her condition. Remembered when I first needed prednisolone for her, about a year prior) the fastest way to get it was Valley Vet in pill form, and remembered at that time the results were obvious and clear. Ordered more pills from VV. Results were apparent within a week.

I also have some super strange textured robaxin. Stuff feels like powdered sugar. Is the scooper with it fluffed or compacted? They couldn’t answer, and you can’t handle the stuff without a dust mask.

so, while the plural of anecdote is not data, I’ll be extremely hesitant to buy from them again.

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Even racehorsemeds themselves know what Pentosan should look like on their website catalog:

Then you get it and it’s clear…

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Are all these companies mixing their Pentosan wrong Laurie ?

We shall wait for clarifications …

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A given pure compound should be the same compound no matter how it’s made and therefore look the same. Might be differences in how it’s dissolved.

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Well, Pentosan is water soluble so I am assuming they put it in Bacteriostatic NaCl/Water and then adjust PH with sodium hydroxide/hydrochloric acid ?

Nacl,water, Sodium hydroxide and HCA are all clear solutions, and so the Pentosan should give its Amber color.

Lets not forget that Wedgewood is not a manufacturer, they buy API’s from someone else and that someone else can make mistakes.

Probably worth it to phone WW if I were you, I think it’s a damn fine question to ask.
I’d phone Racehorsemeds but the FBI shut them down. The site isn’t even up.
More support for my theory…

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/r…l-drug-makers/

Check your medications people… If in doubt, call. Got a good answer ? Fine.
Got evaded ? Post here.

The MSDS for pentosan polysulfate sodium states that it’s a white to off white solid.

Perhaps it’s a preservative that sometimes give the solution an amber color.

This might be libel to say some products are adulterated or unpure, solely based on the color? If you truly believe that’s the case, you should probably test it.

Although not sure what that’ll accomplish since racehorsemeds is already operating outside fda approval.

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It is legal for me to ask a question, or raise a suspicion. This isn’t Iran ain’t it Simkie ?
no where have i stated a fact…

If it’s a preservative that is used by ALL registered pharma companies that make the product, but not Company X, then that’s even worse ! Why are they not following proper manufacturing ?

If the picture on their website is Amber, and i get a clear solution, how is that not a fine damn question to ask ?

Well, irrelevant in any case - you got that right.

stay safe folks.