Congrats! very cute, his color looks like butter 
you must be very happy!
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Better yet, show us the DNA test proving he has a black gene and not two red ones. There is a way to prove it and with this crowd you are going to have to especially given the apparent color of his sire and dam. If they are truly palomino and cremello, than it really is impossible that he’d be a perlino. Foal coat color changes so much until they shed out at about 4 months. My black filly was born dark gray for example. I have no reason, nor do most of us, to lie to you. You need to go out and read how color genetics work and you’ll see that we’re telling you the truth. 
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Palomino Leopard WB
you have a super member name
have you to do with palomino or palomino spotted(leopard) sorry I know not the name in German.
In German is a leopard a cat and not a horse.
Have you horses? you are breeder of horses, have you a stud farm? Have you a Stallion,or what is your breed. Please let me know 
MAHAL
So if the last 2 horses I owned had a big white blaze, 4 high white stockings, and white on their bellies they are possibly Sabino?
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WHOA!!! You guys are BLINDING me with all these wild colored horses, I think I’m going to need to go to the eye doctor tomorrow…I’m seeing flashing lights and spots before my eyes… 
Sorry, I can’t compete with all these rare and artistic horses, but here’s a pic of my new little ‘perlino’ filly…
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Where’s that cat-fighting icon??? 
MAHAL–why does it matter if others have taken over your post and for the most part turned it into something educational (and the rest just keeping it lighthearted so no one kills anyone!!! )
I for one have learned a lot, had a good laugh, decided what color I want my next horse to be and enjoyed seeing some beautiful horses. I’m sure we all look forward to seeing pictures of your boy grow up, no matter what color he is
HOORAY–it’s a filly!!!
The RPSI will register the Knabstrupper in the US in their new “Knabstrupper Book” THe mare must be first presented to the RPSI for approval for breeding Knabstruppers and then the foals, when presented, will receive a Knabstrupper brand and be entered into the Knabstrupper registery books of the RPSI. For more info contact the RPSI’s US office at rhpsi@aol.net
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am a breeder that has one of the first known about hanoverian Sabinos <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just had to giggle a bit Alexandra, cause there are TONS of sabino Hanoverians in Germany and in NA. I hate to burst your bubble, but just look at For Pleasure(Furioso II/Grannus) who was Hanoverian Stallion of the year in 2000…he is a sabino and even had a belly spot! Now that is one nice horse
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hoppla sorry
double post
I forgot the photo
of my German foal Modern Art
MAHAL
Man, I’m glad it was slow at work tonight…gave me a chance to read this whole thread…what a laugh!
I also breed “rare” coloured horses. Buckskin, palomino and cremello Appaloosas for sport. It looks like I need to get my digital camera out and show off my “rares” too. 
Now that I’ve thought more about it…I place a lot of the blame for misinformation on the Registries. For example, the ApHCC does NOT recognize the colour “cremello”, so my cream horses are registered as palomino or white, depending on how the pictures turn out. As well, I have a black stud who is registered as buckskin. He WAS buckskin until he was about 18 mos. old. Most people don’t bother to have the papers corrected because the registries make it too damn difficult.
Soooo, if I sold one of my cream mares to someone that didn’t know any differently, they would say “Oh, look at my palomino mare!” and they would have registration papers that would back them up.
[This message was edited by spotacular on Apr. 23, 2003 at 12:55 AM.]
Your speech is directed at me, isn’t it? I can’t believe the jealousy on this board at times. First Spot with all of her beautiful horses, and now YOU. You know, most people would kill for even ONE of your horses. Heck I’d trade my hubby for a breeding to one of your boys! (please?) Is it that hard to accept that sometimes a backyard breeder can produce somthing like my perlpalello filly?
Seriously even though we can have lots of fun with the colours, the real goals of breeding far out weigh the colour and I think most of us are fully aware of that. I’m just as proud of my ‘normal’ coloured babies because they are outstanding individuals in their own right. But it doesn’t mean I don’t still hope for that little spot or neat colour to pop out. 
I’ve really enjoyed this thread - I’ve learned a few things and I love seeing all of these gorgeous horses.
MAHAL, Aurum has already posted a picture of what a perlino foal looks like and she should know as she did produce the FIRST. I am not certain why you continue to argue as we have plainly posted sites where you can see what the possibilities of the cross you made are. This has nothing to do with us liking or not liking the foal. We are only stating the facts. Your Kinsky mare is a cremello when crossed with Mahal a registered Palomino you choices are only cremello or palomino for a foal.
Please PROVE US WRONG and all of colour genetics…post pictures of this colt in a few weeks.
Hi Spot,
the pic is from yesterday, today is his eye(the half)aqua marine.
Spot you have outstanding Coloured Thoroughbred
congratulation.(I have visit your webpage ).
Shopping for me on your studfarm would be great.
I loves your Thoroughbred breeding program
MAHAL
Hi Mahal,
congratulations to you foal and Mahal / Noa. This is a very very nice and special foal , I look at your website, you have a very good breeding program for colored horses.
Color with this quality…WOW.
I read the discussion about the color, I think it is not a palomino, he has blue eyes and pink skin. A palomino has dark eyes an normal skin.
But I found in this link http://www.doubledilute.com/smokycream.htm
horses who looks like as yours.
The name of the color is Smoky Cream. Is this a possibility if the horse is not a perlino ?
Chelsea
Hi Mahal,
congratulations, he is very very nice.
I like his color.
Can you post more pictures-please ???
Thank you
Mandy
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JB:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by flshgordon:
what are the possibilities if you bred each of these type stallions to a dark bay mare??
Perlino?
Cremello?
Palomino?
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So much depends on whether the bay mare carries a red gene or if she’s homozygous for black, and if the cremello and palomino’s carry 1 or 2 bay modifiers (and even if your mare carries 1 or 2 bay modifiers). That said, basically you could get nearly anything from the palomino - black, bay, chestnut, smokey black, buckskin, or palomino. From the cremello or perlino you could get smokey black, buckskin, or palomino. If the bay mare doesn’t have a red gene, take out palomino and chestnut from those combinations.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I guess I’ll just have to wait again until the next time I breed my mare and see what happens…I played it nice & safe this time–bred bay to bay and guess what–got a bay THANKS!
HOORAY–it’s a filly!!!
One thing that I would like to address in this whole sorted topic is the breeding of Unique, rare, one of a kinds, the first and only. This is all well and good, but just because (and this IS NOT DIRECTED at anyone in particular) a horse is the first or the only or a rarity doesn’t make it a good horse, or maybe it’s a good horse but not necessarily a great horse. Of course every breed or type at some point or another had to be the first or the only, but I think what is more important is being one of the best or being at the top of “several”. There is no gauge to measure against and “only” or a “first” I really hope that colored breeders or any breeders for that matter striving for something NEW (Such as a more modern type, etc.) don’t over look the most important aspect of breeding and that is quality. I know this is a really fundamental and I’m not trying to be redundant, but lets not forget quality then add in the color as our goals. I am not saying this about any of the horses posted here and I also don’t want to sound like a hypocrite, I’ve had some “firsts” and “only” but being the "firsts and only NEVER lasts long, others WILL come along and as the old saying goes “quality lasts” so let’s all bear that in mind as we strive for our unique breeding goals–there will be others, but will yours be one of the best, will yours be of quality?
Again this is NOT directed at anyone in particular, just a generalized statement/thought.
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Mahal, I found a Noha on your site, not a Noa, which is what is on your photo of your new foal. If, Noha is the mare of your new foal and she is cremello as she appears on your site, then you have a cremello colt not a perlino. A cremello to palomino is 50% chance of palomino and 50% chance of cremello…there is no other choices for a palomino to a cremello breeding. If, your mare is cremello, then your new foal is a cremello not a perlino. In order for your foal to be a perlino then the dam must be a smokey black, smokey creme, perlino or a buckskin when bred to your palomino stallion. Here is a color chart for you to see for your self, that you indeed have a nice cremello colt, not a perlino. He is very cute and cremellos are nice too! http://www.horsecolor.com/dilutions/cream/foal_chart.htm
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What a cool name and thing to do spot !!!
Alexandra
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The only possible way that baby could be a perlino is if one of his parents was not a true palomino or cremello with two red genes (chestnut base color). What comes to mind is the silver dilution (taffy) which can mimic chestnut. It’s pretty rare though but a silver bay is very often mistaken for a chestnut as the black in the mane can dilute all the way to silver and gray and their legs lighten up to tan or gray. Most people think they are chestnuts until they produce a bay foal when bred to another chestnut which is genetically impossible. Add the cream dilute to the silver dilution and you can get some interesting combinations. An easy way to prove one way or the other what his true color is is to DNA test him for color. They can now tell if he has red or black genes. If he has a red and a black gene, then he most likely is a perlino.
He is very very cute. I think he’s very special even if he turns out to be a palomino instead of a perlino. I wish he were mine.
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