Does anyone know what has happened with Rascalino? He is no longer listed on the Hanoverian nor Celle Stallion distribution lists for 2012?
Sold as riding horse
alexandra, do you know why he was sold? Did his offspring not meet expectations? I loffed him.
well I would say he was very well ridden, and the money must have been right and I guess breeding numbers were not too high as he was already in the stud for quite a time. Nothing bad about the offspring. Just a question of economics …
oh poo! i loved him and he was on “the list” for my mare!
congrats to those who purchased him!
mbm, I’m sure there is still semen around. I was at Spruce Meadows a couple of years ago when the Celle stallions were there. I was so impressed with his temperament, movement, and rideability. I spoke with his rider in the barn, where he was surrounded by a crowd, including babies in strollers. He raved about what a wonderful horse he was, and the sight of a stallion allowing a baby in a stroller to pet his nose impressed me lots.
being the newb I am to breeding, who would i contact?
Well I went to look at one of his offspring for sale (a 5 year old) and while she was sweet enough on the ground she was very naughty under saddle and very difficult, and was from a very good damline. I was excited about the horse but after watching a GP level rider on her deal with nappy, nasty behavior that included much head flipping and even rearing I walked away.
I can only assume the horse had some physical “issues” going on. I have seen other videos of his offspring that reminded me of her so it’s given me a bad impression, but it makes it interesting to me that he is now a riding horse.
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being the newb I am to breeding, who would i contact?[/QUOTE]
I would check with Superior Equine Sires. I’m pretty sure she had him in stock last year.
This has been my impression of every Rascalino offspring I’ve met, including my own. Great temperament and trainability – movement varies and depends on the dam. My own Rascalino filly has been lovely under saddle. I look forward to seeing Rascalino compete with his new owner.
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Well I went to look at one of his offspring for sale (a 5 year old) and while she was sweet enough on the ground she was very naughty under saddle and very difficult, and was from a very good damline. I was excited about the horse but after watching a GP level rider on her deal with nappy, nasty behavior that included much head flipping and even rearing I walked away.
I can only assume the horse had some physical “issues” going on. I have seen other videos of his offspring that reminded me of her so it’s given me a bad impression, but it makes it interesting to me that he is now a riding horse.[/QUOTE]
Well because you see all that in WBs - that is why you bought a pony - right ?!
In stallion yearbook 2012 there are 1030 offspring registered for Hannover noted.
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Well because you see all that in WBs - that is why you bought a pony - right ?![/QUOTE]
I have no control over the many lame horses that many Warmblood breeders produce, that would be their problem.
btw, my post was meant that I don’t necessarily blame the breeding of the horse for her terrible behavior, but if you would rather blame the horse then be my guest. In my experience a sound 4-5 year old does not act up in such a way under saddle when they have been under saddle in training with an GP rider for more than a year, but maybe that is your experience?
If you saw a 5 year old well bred horse, at home, balking, flipping it’s head, slamming on the breaks, spinning around and then rearing, what would you think?
I guess I should have just said I went to see one and it was one of the worst young horses I had ever seen and left it at that?
I would say that GP rider is no young horse trainer if he/she can’t solve these issues in over a year of “training”. Or maybe he/she is the cause? Lots of GP riders have no business around young horses. Case in point: Cesar Parra.
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btw, my post was meant that I don’t necessarily blame the breeding of the horse for her terrible behavior, but if you would rather blame the horse then be my guest. In my experience a sound 4-5 year old does not act up in such a way under saddle when they have been under saddle in training with an GP rider for more than a year, but maybe that is your experience?
If you saw a 5 year old well bred horse, at home, balking, flipping it’s head, slamming on the breaks, spinning around and then rearing, what would you think?
I guess I should have just said I went to see one and it was one of the worst young horses I had ever seen and left it at that?[/QUOTE]
Your post indicates you think a GP trainer makes successful young horses. My take on that is quite the opposite. After spending five years visiting dressage barns in the SF Bay area peopled by GP trainers, I actively avoid the tie me up/tie me down sort of rider for starting my young horses. My feelings on that were reinforced when I had a GP rider visit one of my horses who had been undersaddle for probably eight or nine months. She was going well, and this trainer really liked her and came back for several rides. After she was finished, it took two weeks to get that mare going forward cheerfully again. To say the least, she hadn’t been bridled into a frame at all three gaits with a tight fist and spurs, and didn’t do well with it. :no: Looking at Rascalino as a cause for your purchase prospect’s issues wouldn’t be my first thought.
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I have seen other videos of his offspring that reminded me of her so it’s given me a bad impression, but it makes it interesting to me that he is now a riding horse.[/QUOTE]
This is what made me make my post !
You have seen videos of other horses by this stallion. Have not sat on them have not seen any vet check of them. But still seem to stir the common judgement of this stallion into a certain direction.
The stallion is widely known over here as a stallion producing good temperament and nothing yet I have heard about health issues. And more than 1000 registered H offspring over here are existing.
As far as I know he is still a stallion and ridden by a Junior !
The state stud has to make a profit in the end, so if there is a good offer for a stallion (no matter if the future use is lawn ornament, driving horse, riding horse, breeding stallion) than the stallion is sold. Full Stop. If the offer is higher than the estimated breeding number is the next years - I would do it the same if I were in the shoes of the Dr.Brockmann.
This sale is nothing where something needs to be interpreted into.
Never a good idea to generalize when your database is n=1 
Could also be PP is looking in a lot of wrong places? The ‘findings’ could easily be coincidental and from your posts PP posts I must say you don’t sound particularly differentiated but mistake personal preference for lack of quality on the whole.
I see a lot of lame or substandard ponies by virtue of nature but I wouldn’t mistake my personal viewpoint as being universal. Live and let live?
FWIW, I have a mare that has had two Rascalino fillies. In both instances the stallion gave a more mellow, rideable, willing and confident riding horse. I have a close friend who has a Rascalino filly that she bred and that she is now riding and enjoying tremendously. She raves about the filly’s willingness, talent and sensible nature. I have many other acquaintances who have Rascalinos that all fit the same description.
Sometimes the generalities that get posted on this board from infinitesimal exposure to a stallion or a stallion’s offspring just boggle my mind.
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Sometimes the generalities that get posted on this board from infinitesimal exposure to a stallion or a stallion’s offspring just boggle my mind.[/QUOTE]
You could say the same thing the other way around though couldn’t you? How many people post about their ONE offspring that is nothing but wonderful, who calls them out?
To me there is nothing wrong with anyone giving their own experience or observation. However, I would hope that a stallion would not be labeled negatively from a single example. That was the point I was trying to make. No harm in citing a single example, but make sure that you make it clear that it is a single example. Which, I think you did.
