The response to disaster in the ring due to outside forces used to be to track down the person responsible for the kid, dog, vehicle etc that caused the issue and present them with your show bill.
A reride is a terrible precedent.
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Is there video showing this “several children went barreling down the stairs of the Alltech Arena”
Just for my own morbid curiosity about what exactly happened. Short of an all out fistfight that was literally flowing out of the stands and into the ring, I’m puzzled at how this disruption (rude though it may have been) is any different than the usual disruptions one sees at shows (frustrating as they are).
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I was going to say, I’ve never had a re-ride, but I have had a flat class paid for by someone else after their dog ran into the ring. I was on an old schoolmaster pony who didn’t care, but had to pull up to avoid stepping on the dog.
The only actual re-ride I’ve seen was a friend who was somehow allowed to do a full hunter round while the judge was in the bathroom. She got to redo it once there was a judge to judge her.
I don’t love re-rides for somewhat expected horse show things. The playing field is never perfectly even. Sometimes half the class has to show in the pouring rain and the other half gets sunshine. Sometimes you have to warm up twice because the ring gets held up by a bad fall. Sometimes you’re stuck going early with big shadows that clear for the latter half of the group.
Allowing re-rides because the round wasn’t judged/timed or because a change was made to the course/ring part way through is fine with me.
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I’ve seen that mentioned in a few prize lists but I can’t remember which ones.
The other side of cancel culture is the re-do. Both are bad, whether in academics, discipline or sports. Fire all the female college presidents. Give testing accommodations to everyone, rendering them useless for those who really need them. Give the kids who slander their teachers and their families on TikTok a pass: they’re just children after all! Drives me nuts. There is a lot to be said for you win some, you lose some, and you reap what you sow.
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I do wonder how many of those college presidents would have resigned or been fired if they had been men.
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Scapegoat 101 if you ask me, misogyny style!
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If she was allowed to re ride she should have had to re ride the whole course. The fact she was allowed to canter straight in to the line that was the issue is troublesome.
There were also other riders who did not receive a reride and rode mistake-free faultless rounds.
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Maybe a bit nitpicky, but IIRC there were no re-rides. It was in the swap where they all ride all 4 horses. In this case they dropped the scores from that horse and the other riders only rode the remaining 3.
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Thank you! I couldn’t remember exactly how they handled it, just that it made sense and seemed fair within the context of the class — unlike this.
Also, this made me think — I actually got a reride back in the spring on my baby green horse. As I was jumping the first jump (single on the diagonal), the fern/tree decorating the ‘in’ of the next line blew over in such a way that it was impassable. I came to a walk and signaled to the judge and was allowed to start the trip over again. (Nerve-wracking actually, because I had had a beautiful first jump and wasn’t sure I could replicate it again! 
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I’m against re-rides, do overs, mulligans or whatever you want to call them.
I was doing a dressage test when a loose dog ran through the ring. No re-ride, we just kept going. I think I should have gotten bonus points.
Twenty or so years ago we had a really bad year for locusts. I was judging the last fence on the course. The novice fence was right next to the woods. It was loud at times. Several of the novice horses spooked and jumped the training fence and got eliminated.
Just like in the rest of life, things happen. Where do you draw the line of what gets a re-ride and what doesn’t?
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I was going to say in dressage they seem a bit more generous with allowing you to re-do if something unexpected happens. I’ve seen it at rated dressage shows many times. One scenario I remember is somwone handwalking a horse next to the ring, and that horse dropped down to roll. The horse in the ring spooked, the judge rang the bell, and allowed the horse to circle back and redo the current movement and continue from there. 
And part of the challenge is putting all the jumps on course together.
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As each movement is scored separate in dressage, it’s easier to just re-ride that movement and continue.
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That was the part for me. She don’t have to navigate the tough turn to the line where he had supposedly spooked. The other kids did and the top ones did it expertly.
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I rode IHSA for Kutztown University back in the late 80’s. We had one college who would call for re-rides if their riders had a bad round. The President of our region was this college’s coach. Well we hosted a show at our barn and were using one of our riders junior jumper who didn’t quite understand the concept of being a hunter and going slow. This was the Open division. Spectre had been used in one other class (Intermediate) and the girl who rode him came off the course laughing and smiling. Round wasn’t bad. Rider complained-coach said re-ride. She was granted one and got our school horse Belle who was an absolute sweetheart but jumped like a deer over every fence not very pretty. Came time to line up and the judge walked over to that rider and said I had you placed 1st on your first horse the junior jumper. You have now not placed on this horse.
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Really? I think I saw both the round and the re-ride, it looked like the whole course to me? Did you mean only the last fences were judged?
I understood that she didn’t ride the entire course again, but I wasn’t there. 
According to the article in the Chronicle, the judges specifically told her to just do the last three jumps on the course.
The article also said that the trainer talked to the stewards about the cause of the spook, and then the stewards approached the judges to discuss the situation.
Yes. She only re rode the last line
