Erin, first a note to you (or Weatherford): I’m not “going private” with this for a reason. I hope you can understand my desire to illustrate this process so that others will see the difficult process we are going through and perhaps as a result, support our struggles. If you do not understand my reasoning, feel free to delete these comments between Snowbird and I–but I hope you will read them first.
I’m also not saying “carry on,” but I AM saying it seems like you are out in the woods alone on this one and that’s not a good thing.
So then I gather what you really mean is you don’t think I should “carry on” and that I should quit because I am all alone in my views and as you say this is not a good thing.
Whoops, sorry. That was a typo, plain and simple: I meant to say I am not saying NOT to carry on… I think if you read it corrected, you’ll find it actually makes more sense.
I didn’t mean to imply that you are getting no support, Snowbird, but there is the perception problem again and it is something we continue to struggle with.
By making the statement you imply that I am getting no support and that somehow I have a problem with the way I am perceived. A negative statement in the above context reinforces the negative which might otherwise not exist, I do take that very personally.
I’m sorry you missed the “we” in that statement: if I’m included myself in the perception problem, there is no need for you to think I am talking exlusively about you. Moreover, I am only reporting what I’m encountered in private emails–and I’m reporting it publicly because I think it might help everyone to understand the process “we” are going through (and in that “we” I’m not just including you and I any more either).
It may simply because this is a busy time for people right now (the BB is kinda slow–I wish I didn’t have the time to be on it right now…
The BB is not slow as you well know that is a very lame excuse and not valid and very patronizing…you can see someone else hurt?
Really, Vik! Where ARE you getting this reading from? The BB has been, IMO, slow lately. There are no really hot topics generating huge responses, etc. I meant what I said. There was nothing hidden in that comment. Me? Want to hurt someone, especially you? WHY? Especially YOU!
Sometimes, one makes the effort NOT because it will achieve something, but rather
because of the impression it makes, right?
Unless, you are talking about yourself, I certainly have never needed to try and impress anyone. Nor would I do anything for such a shallow reason.
I’m sorry (again!), but you are misunderstanding me. I’m not talking about an “impression” in the egotistical sense. I’m talking about the impression of people working together to achieve a valued goal, of people hanging in there, carrying on, not falling by the wayside. That’s what I meant about doing things that show the inclusion of more people than just us diehards (or “militant crazies,” as we’ve been called).
Just because you think this is the right way does not make it so!..Your implication that there is no support is yours and that’s all…
Snowbird, surely you don’t really think I think that way? Remember, I’m a “take it or leave it” person? If you don’t agree, that’s OK. Perhaps I should put “IMO” at the end of every statement–but I ask that you consider it “there” even when it isn’t, OK? Moreover, nowhere have I said there was no support: I’m only saying that I’m getting emails that indicate that perception is out there. I want to figure out a way to counter that perception. I don’t know how we can do that, but I think…er, IMO…it may be important.
“I certainly wish that if you wanted to have this discussion you would have been considerate enough to do it privately.”
Is there any chance that I have convinced you NOT to take this private? I don’t know if anyone has read these last few exchanges, but they illustrate something good about you–and also about me–and about the way we are working, in our different ways and for our different reasons, on the same, very difficult goals. I can “hear” the emotions behind your statements–and I hope others can, too. I hope they can hear how much you care, how determined you are and how confident THEY can be that you are (and have been for a very long time) working very, very hard for the good of the sport with no motivations other than those you have described (something which, as I have admitted to you before, I cannot say about myself!). Please, don’t take these last statements as patronizing. In them, I am not really talking to you, but rather–hopefully–to others. I hope you can understand that.
