Recognizing a Ranch Saddle

Hey guys! I did a search and couldn’t find anything on this so here goes.

I asked some friends for saddle recommendations and they all agreed that I should be looking for a ranch saddle. My horse will mostly be a trail horse but we do want to try different things for fun just to see how she’ll do. I’m not looking to seriously compete at rodeos but just to have a good time. We want to try barrels and I’m learning how to rope too.

I’ve googled this but all that ever comes up is ranch saddles for sale. What is different about a ranch saddle though compared to other western saddles? Is there anything specific on it I need to look for? I’m going to consignment stores so they aren’t always labeled as what exactly they are so how do I recognize a ranch saddle?

Thank you!

To me a ranch saddle typically looks like a good working saddle. No frills or extras. A lot of them are half rough out, which I personally don’t care for. Many of them have a heavier duty tree and horn so they can be roped off of, and saddle strings for attaching things to. I find that a lot of saddles being marketed to ranch type events also have a smooth seat, or unpadded seat, also something I am not particularly fond on.

Ranch saddles come in all kinds, many differences regional ones.

A ranch saddle in the West would be different than one in the SW.

What you seem to be looking for is an all purpose type saddle.

If you want to do speed events, your need for that kind of performance in a saddle will be different than if you are roping.

Speed event saddles are made to hold you in there, but be very light, so you are shaving hundreds of seconds by the horse carrying the least weight you can get by.

At the same time, that very light saddle is not really good to try to rope with, the wrong jerk can tear it, you need a more substantial saddle to hold a rope tight with something heavy hitting the other end.
No matter how good the roper, there are times the horn and so the whole saddle is going to have to pull hard.

As a beginner in those very different events, you are better off with a more substantial saddle, but one that keeps you also a little bit more in there.

There are so many kinds of humans, horses and what we do that in general, you try different types of saddles and find which one fits you best.

Many ranch saddles tend to be made in modified association trees, that gives you more versatility, but also will restrict you on how light you can make one.

In our area, ranch saddles tend to be less deep than in other places, because doctoring cattle outside you have to keep getting off in a hurry, don’t want a saddle that keeps you stuck in there, so they are made for that.

On the other hand, you want more of a front, so you can ride a horse better if it gives trouble, so you want more cantle also, although not too high, so you can throw your leg over it quickly when in a hurry to tie a calf down.

I say, get a nice used saddle that fits you and your horse, that will keep it’s value, so when you finally decided what is right for you and what you do, if you have to re-sell it, you can and get what you then decide you need.

The web site http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/ has a lot of good information on selecting and fitting saddles. If you go to the main page and scroll down, you will see an icon that says “Explore our help center.”

This web page defines “ranch saddle.” http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/ranch-saddle.html

In your situation, I wouldn’t necessarily go looking for a ranch saddle. They’re big and heavy. I’d probably look for a lighter trail saddle. There isn’t anything you can’t do, at least while you’re still learning, on a trail saddle other than actually roping something. If you eventually decide that you want to specialize in barrel racing or roping or whatever, then you can look for a saddle made for that activity.

Hi,

I’m going to jump in on this thread (not meaning to hi-jack it), as I am also looking for an “all purpose” type of western saddle that will mainly be used for flatting in the ring and to go on trails.

I ride english (background is jumpers and some dressage) and want something that I can put on my young horse while continuing his education in the ring. In addition to recommendations on types (and even brands!) of western saddles that might suit, what seat size should I be looking for? I typically ride in a 17" forward flap, as I’m fairly long from hip to knee. What about width for a normal, perhaps slightly narrow horse?

Thanks so much!

Thank you everyone! I’ll be reading through those pages and then see what I can find in this area. A trail saddle did come up in our conversations too and since I doubt I’ll be any good at roping from a horse anytime soon anyways (still pretty bad from the ground), that should work out pretty well too.

This is a ranch saddle like you find around here:

http://amarillo.craigslist.org/grd/5406064764.html

It has no padding in the seat because when it rains, that is very wet and squishy for long time and the padding softer leather tears too easily.

Generally they don’t have tooling, or not much, because while tooling does help to keep a saddle leather firmer, it cost considerably more and ranch saddles are generally not going to last that long under heavy use.

Rough out when new will eat you up, until it gets slicker, but does help keep you in there better once not so new, never gets as slick as plain leather does.

There are now ranch saddles that have the fenders come thru a slit, not hang underneath and so bind a bit how far you can swing your leg and make you at times fight your fenders:

http://www.jeffsmithscowboycollection.com/store.php?ac=products&cid=36

Here is a minimalist saddle, cut back best it can be of any extra leather, so very light in weight.
The trouble, other than a very light rider, those that have tried those for all day ranch work found horses may get back sore, the weight was not distributed as well, the back of that saddle tended to, on some horses with shorter backs, dip on the back and sore them in front of the hips, something a saddle with standard, larger skirts is not as apt to do, as those give a little and raise behind, not dig in:

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Hi,

I’m going to jump in on this thread (not meaning to hi-jack it), as I am also looking for an “all purpose” type of western saddle that will mainly be used for flatting in the ring and to go on trails.

Thanks so much![/QUOTE]

Not trying to be mean, but you won’t want to use the word “flatting” ANYPLACE around Western riders. They will all KNOW you are a newcomer to Western riding and probably move away from you. Just not a word in use in those circles. Actually I have only ever seen it used here on COTH, was never a word anyone used when I rode English much more! Kind of redundant, it is understood that western horses ALWAYS go on the flat unless they are being bad (bucking), so you don’t specify with a word saying it. Just name the gait instead.

I would suggest the Trail type saddle advised to the OP should work well for you also as you learn to ride Western. Not sure what kind of riding you plan for your young horse, but a Trail type saddle is good for a number of activities. There are a number of posts recently that give links to fitting a saddle to horse, that may be helpful to view before shopping. Give you a better idea of terms, what to look for as you try saddles on your horse.

Western saddles are not fitted like English saddles, as to seat length. A 17" seat size is large. Some fit issues will depend on how high the cantle at the back of the seat is. You will want a bigger seat with a high back, 4" or more high. That higher seat back doesn’t allow the movement for adjusting body that the lower seat back will let you do. Also how far the cantle comes around your hips, making the area between cantle end and swells (area holding the horn in front of saddle) larger or smaller, can change saddle fit considerably. Many women like a larger area there for thigh fit, find the cantle that comes to far forward to be restricting. Also the width of the seat (twist) at the narrowest point, seems to be more comfortable for women when is narrower than what men like to ride. I myself prefer a narrow twist in a western saddle. Men in my family like a wider twist, flatter seat for their comfort. Probably has to be the fact that male and female hip structures are not the same in flexability when sitting a saddle.

I find that many folks ride a seat that is actually too big for them, giving them more of a chair seat, legs ahead of their body. Body is usually best if aligned, head, hips, heels, when riding, which also keeps horse more comfortable too. Just that stirrups are long, straight down, over English saddle positions. Legs should be under you, not ahead or behind. We were always told to have toes of boots just visible over the knee, no more, no less, when looking down at any gait.

I went to a local consignment store and looked at what they had yesterday. A lady recommended one for me when she heard what I’m trying to do. It fits my mare really well (they do trials) and I’m very comfortable in it too so far. I’ve only tried it twice though so far. I will have it for a week.

I tried adding a picture but just can’t seem to figure it out on my phone since I don’t have a link for it…

I really appreciate the help! This has been very informative.

^^That’s the BEST way to do it. That’s nice you had a store nearby that lets you do a trial.

If you can figure out how to post pictures, we can try to confirm it fits well. I find it easiest to upload the photos to another site (such as PhotoBucket) and then post the link here.

Since you haven’t really “decided” on a Western event for sure, I’d stick with something all-purpose for now. If you get more specialized later on, then you can look for a specific saddle for barrel racing, or roping, or whatever it may be.

I do agree with the others to make sure you do NOT try to rope a live animal unless you have a roping saddle. Most of the trees in all-purpose saddles do not have the strength to hold a live animal and you don’t want to risk busting your tree. The only exception would be if you are doing breakaway roping, where you are never going to actually dally on your horn, then the saddle isn’t as important.

You can only post photos here if you are a paid, Premium Member. Otherwise doing the link to another site is the only way for us to view your photos.

[QUOTE=Isi;8486406]
Hey guys! I did a search and couldn’t find anything on this so here goes.

I asked some friends for saddle recommendations and they all agreed that I should be looking for a ranch saddle. My horse will mostly be a trail horse but we do want to try different things for fun just to see how she’ll do. I’m not looking to seriously compete at rodeos but just to have a good time. We want to try barrels and I’m learning how to rope too.

I’ve googled this but all that ever comes up is ranch saddles for sale. What is different about a ranch saddle though compared to other western saddles? Is there anything specific on it I need to look for? I’m going to consignment stores so they aren’t always labeled as what exactly they are so how do I recognize a ranch saddle?

Thank you![/QUOTE]

Look at those ranch saddles that are for sale and compare them with other types that are for sale (e.g., barrel, roping, reining, trail) and you will begin to see the differences among them. I could say that some have higher cantles than others; some have full rigging, some just one cinch; look at the differences among the horns, the swells, the skirts. The more time you spend looking at the different styles, the more you will notice. Just as with time and observation “all the little red geldings” in one pasture will start to look like unique individuals. :slight_smile: (Borrowed this from a friend who owns a big red gelding from a different pasture! :D)

Here are a couple of examples from one shop:

ranch saddle http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/ranch-saddle1.html#.Vp6S8n0rLnA

barrel-racing saddle http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/billy-cook-barrel-saddle2.html#.Vp6TK30rLnA

reining saddle http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/classic-reiner.html#.Vp6TUn0rLnA

roping saddle http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/arena-roping-saddle-2147.html#.Vp6TjH0rLnA