Registered Morgan driving mare up for adoption

I hope it is OK to post this link as they are a 501c3 organization.

Saddlebred Rescue has a papered Morgan mare available. She is still with the broker so she is not “safe” yet. She drives but does not seem to be very broke. GVK Allison Command Her sire was FIDDLER ALI COMMAND and her dam was GVF CHARITY COMMAND. She has Waseeka’s Nocturne and Trophy up close in her breeding.

They think she will be best suited for carriage driving. She is 12 years old.

http://forum.saddlebredrescue.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2421

Video on Youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_DcBsGNfM

I agree - she doesn’t look “broke to drive” to me. Very tenative, gaping mouth, way above the bit.

She should best be described as a “driving prospect”.

Hope she finds a home. Why is she in danger if she is with a broker? What is a broker, exactly?

Where is she located? (Sorry if I missed it)

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Why is she in danger if she is with a broker? What is a broker, exactly?[/QUOTE]

Broker = Used Car Dealer of the horse world. If they aren’t sold before the truck leaves for the junkyard, they go on the truck. (BTW Junk Yard = Slaughter House)

She’s been owned by an Amish man for the last 10 years so I’m sure she’s broke to drive…just not “correctly” broke. Poor girl…

To me it looks like she’s a nice willing mare that has indeed been broken to drive. But she’s not at all happy with the bit though.

She clearly has a lot of good qualities e.g. biddable - there’s a heck of a lot going on in that shed and yet she’s going forward all the time - though a little tentative at first. But she’s going forward and not doing anything mad or even mildy ditzy.

However what I don’t understand is what is a 501c3 organisation? I thought it meant it was a charity???

So why have we got the stories about owned by Amish and if she’s not sold she’ll be off to the meat market???

Is this a horse in the care of a charitable welfare organisation looking for a good home or just another horse for sale?

She was obtained by Saddlebred rescue from a Broker. They did not purchase her, they simply asked for the opportunity to find her a home- for the price that the broker is asking, if I understand this correctly. I do not know if they can or will accept donations in order to fund paying the Broker, but, I suspect that they can.

This is not at all uncommon- there is another rescue (AC4H) who takes pictures of the horses in the possession of the Brokers, hoping to find them buyers prior to the horses being loaded upand shipped to another low class sale, or directly to Canada. People can purchase the horse directly from the Broker, or make donations, and AC4H purchases the horse, assuming that they have a ready, willing, and able adopter. Most rescues are inno financial condition to warehouse horses right now.

It is a bit of an odd situation, but the horses have the opportunity to benefit, which is, frankly, all I care about with it.

Thomas, there is a big debate about all of this here as you can imagine. I am not in favor of buying these horses from the brokers but they are willing to alert some of the rescues when horses come in that they think will have a chance at adoption. On the other hand, they are making alot of money in a backhanded kind of way as some rescues are always telling people that the truck leaves at such and such a time or else. It is a double edged sword because there are many very nice horses going to slaughter. I am not in favor of this kind of emotional blackmail being used to save the horses but I do not wish to see otherwise lovely, good horses like this one go to slaughter either. It is a sad dilemna.

It is amazing that she continues to go forward with that veritible circus going on, if I were able to have a driving horse that I could also ride, I would be going to get her.

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Thomas, there is a big debate about all of this here as you can imagine. I am not in favor of buying these horses from the brokers but they are willing to alert some of the rescues when horses come in that they think will have a chance at adoption. On the other hand, they are making alot of money in a backhanded kind of way as some rescues are always telling people that the truck leaves at such and such a time or else. It is a double edged sword because there are many very nice horses going to slaughter. I am not in favor of this kind of emotional blackmail being used to save the horses but I do not wish to see otherwise lovely, good horses like this one go to slaughter either. It is a sad dilemna.[/QUOTE] I personally find it totally distasteful that “rescues” get involved in what is basically acting to advertise, promote and sell horses for those sorts to make profit.

IMO it’s not a “rescue” at all. It’s just a horse for sale.

And please don’t get me wrong because I also happen to think that horse looks a nice willing sort and doesn’t deserve to be passing through hands of those looking to make a quick sale to make a buck with emotional blackmail.

Then again, I don’t think any horse deserves that!

what we are talking about is the horses who go through the New Holland, PA sale and are bought by the meat buyers(brokers). A few rescues, all reputable, have a relationship with the meat buyers(brokers) to take photos or try and find them homes.

It is a last chance for these horses, and I commend the rescues who try and help these horses.

Well it certainly is a double edged sword.

Most of the horses have gone through an auction. Because limited private buyers attend these auctions a bulk of the horses end up with ‘brokers’. Some auctions the horses aren’t even ‘run through’ so they end up being sold directly to the kill buyers.

I’d love to see rescues go directly to the auctions and get the horses before the brokers do- thus paying far less- but this means that the rescues have to have the funds to pay immediately for purchase PLUS have the resources to house and feed them. Sadly most rescues are shoestring- doing the best they can already and cannot get the horses at the auctions.

So the horses sit on the broker’s lot and their future is at the will of the broker. The broker, based on slaughter house quotas/demand, may ship a load out and some horses may linger around the pens. Sometimes they haul horses to other ‘markets’/ auction houses, sometimes they attempt to private sale them. Once thing is certain though- brokers do not privately sale often. Mostly because the negative feedback and dealing with tire kickers/ no shows make it a complete waste of time (thus waste of money).

So some rescues do the best to save the horses that they can do and that is list horses with potential on their websites and network horses out of the broker pens. The downside is that- yes brokers make more money and in turn can go out and buy more horses perpetuating the cycle.

I believe our hearts are in the right spot but sometimes we concentrate on the medicating of the disease rather than also fighting for the cure. It’s sad to know that these horses are in the situations they are in. We need to pull the good horses out (of the pens) though at the very least.

By rights the rescue shouldn’t be involved with this broker unless they are asking for bail money to buy her and get her out of danger. Once they own her they can look for a home.

…they are definitely teetering on the edge here!