Reining trainer mid-Atlantic recommendations?

I am looking for a reining trainer to send a horse off to for 30/60/90 days, however long the trainer feels it should be. Horse in question has been under saddle for years but needs to learn to slow down and be calm through lead changes. I am an English rider so I am no help at all! :slight_smile:
I would prefer someone who doesn’t use a lot of gadgets, I don’t want to have to ride the horse in a tie down for the rest of his life. Would also prefer that they were in north or South Carolina, or Virginia.
Thanks in advance.

http://www.josianereining.com Fantastic trainer in NC

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I am looking for a reining trainer to send a horse off to for 30/60/90 days, however long the trainer feels it should be. Horse in question has been under saddle for years but needs to learn to slow down and be calm through lead changes. I am an English rider so I am no help at all! :slight_smile:
I would prefer someone who doesn’t use a lot of gadgets, I don’t want to have to ride the horse in a tie down for the rest of his life. Would also prefer that they were in north or South Carolina, or Virginia.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know where the OP thinks reining horses go with a tie down?

I have never seen one in their stables, much less anyone wearing one.
Wrong discipline for that, maybe you are thinking of roping or speed events?

Can’t go wrong there as far as accomplished rider, but be ready to take reining very, very seriously with her.
Have not seen her show, but is said to be one of the up and coming top riders.

As an English rider, you will have to get over how “handsy” reining trainers are.
Because of that, is getting better but still has a way to go, there are some that are still from less than polite to right down rough on horses, doing way more jerking that they should.
Horses seem to take to it without batting an eye, but it is jarring and does make for having to apologize to those coming from other disciplines.

I find that “bumping” painful to watch.
So did I some roughness I found in some hunter/jumper stables and shows when I first came to the US.
In the Europe I learned to ride, if you had to go there, fight your horse, you and/or your horse were not ready to compete yet.

Thankfully, more reiners are learning different skills to achieve their desired results without that extreme “handsiness”.
That will take time, but it is what it is today.

Whoever you choose, go watch them train and then decide if that is what you want for your horse.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. The horse isnt mine but for a family member with a western training background, ovbiously I know very little about this world. :slight_smile:

You could email the NRHA and get names of trainers in the area you want to search:

http://nrha1.com

Then call around and see which ones will fit for what your friend’s want of their horses.

Many competitors from other than reining today are putting some true reining training in their horses as basics, similar as we do with dressage basics in English riding.
That basic reining training, not the specifics of the finished reiner for competition, but what is wanted in a reining horse before that, are great for a really broke horse you can then train for anything else.

In the western world, barrel racers, ropers, team penners, for trail and ranch use, etc, will snatch any horse with solid reining training that is not going to be competitive and needs a different path.
The higher prices of those horses reflect that training they had, that anyone can enjoy in their horse.
I expect that is what your friends are after and that is a good way to go.
That serious basic reining training makes better horses for any you want to do later.
Those horses are truly “broke”.
On the other hand, when a reiner rides or has a horse to retrain that doesn’t has those basics, they complain “this horse is not even broke!”, even if the horse has won plenty cutting, roping, barrel racing, is a finished ranch horse and such.
That horse may be great at what they do, but they don’t have the kind of “handle” a reiner has, that makes life for both pleasant, the rider and horse, that has truly learned to use itself properly, without strain and/or resistances.
A bit like a jumper that pogo-sticks, rides inverted and the rider by the seat of their pants, the horse making it around a course on pure talent and luck, compared with a horse with some solid dressage basics, that the rider and horse communicate seamlessly, rarely having a hairy jump, but the course being jumped smoothly and with easy efforts that flow along, not scary moment after scary jump.

If you come up with some names you are interested in, you can then google them, read their web pages, watch some videos and then come here to see if anyone knows of them directly and what they think.

Maybe others will chime in that may know who else could help you.
Top trainers may not take a horse that is not geared for reining competition, but may have an assistant that may, or know who else may do it they can recommend.

Good luck!

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You could email the NRHA and get names of trainers in the area you want to search:

http://nrha1.com

Then call around and see which ones will fit for what your friend’s want of their horses.

Many competitors from other than reining today are putting some true reining training in their horses as basics, similar as we do with dressage basics in English riding.
That basic reining training, not the specifics of the finished reiner for competition, but what is wanted in a reining horse before that, are great for a really broke horse you can then train for anything else.

In the western world, barrel racers, ropers, team penners, for trail and ranch use, etc, will snatch any horse with solid reining training that is not going to be competitive and needs a different path.
The higher prices of those horses reflect that training they had, that anyone can enjoy in their horse.
I expect that is what your friends are after and that is a good way to go.
That serious basic reining training makes better horses for any you want to do later.
Those horses are truly “broke”.
On the other hand, when a reiner rides or has a horse to retrain that doesn’t has those basics, they complain “this horse is not even broke!”, even if the horse has won plenty cutting, roping, barrel racing, is a finished ranch horse and such.
That horse may be great at what they do, but they don’t have the kind of “handle” a reiner has, that makes life for both pleasant, the rider and horse, that has truly learned to use itself properly, without strain and/or resistances.
A bit like a jumper that pogo-sticks, rides inverted and the rider by the seat of their pants, the horse making it around a course on pure talent and luck, compared with a horse with some solid dressage basics, that the rider and horse communicate seamlessly, rarely having a hairy jump, but the course being jumped smoothly and with easy efforts that flow along, not scary moment after scary jump.

If you come up with some names you are interested in, you can then google them, read their web pages, watch some videos and then come here to see if anyone knows of them directly and what they think.

Maybe others will chime in that may know who else could help you.
Top trainers may not take a horse that is not geared for reining competition, but may have an assistant that may, or know who else may do it they can recommend.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

This is exactly what we are after!! To get this horse ‘really broke’. The horse doesn’t need to be winning on the reining circuit, I just want some reining training on him. Thanks!

You didnt say whether this horse has any reining training?? I’m not sure Josiane would take a horse for 30 or 60 days thst hadn’t had reining training or not bred for it or, someone who didn’t intend to keep it in training. Either way, be prepared for the ballpark of $1,000 a month training and board. I don’t know Josianes specific rates but that’s about normal.
I think you might get better training and attention going to a smaller reining trainer or even a good all around person for your needs, especially since you want a short term program
although I can assure you that a horse running through its lead change maybe be longer than a 30 or 60 day project.
Reiners don’t ever, have never been ridden in tie downs, training forks, yes, draw reins, I’ve seen it, but not a tie down.
NC would be Jesse Chase, Lucas Duchesne, Nathan and Tanya Morton, Dan Yarbrough. There isn’t really anyone I would recommend SC, MD VA or WV. But those ones listed will give you a good start. All hard working, good, kind horseman.

He has no reining training. Do you know any all around trainers you would suggest in NC? I wouldn’t be opposed to western pleasure either. Where I grew up, if you had a horse who wasn’t quite ‘getting it’ when it came to concepts like self carriage and self balance we would send em off to a reining trainer. The guy we used to use is on the other side of country now though!
I think I might run into the problem that he is an off breed (TB) and we are not going to be in a program long term since the closest trainer to me is over an hour away. I don’t need a world champion, I just need someone who knows what they are doing :slight_smile: I might trailer in for tune ups every month or so.
He isn’t running through them, he is more just faster than I like in general and not ‘getting it’ when it comes to how to deal with himself. He has been in dressage training for 8+ months with no real improvement, so I figure its time to try a different method.