Being a pony breeder, we use Remission on all of our small fatties with high risk of laminitis. We have had excellent results and highly recommend the product for that purpose regardless of the exact mix in the ingredients.
QucksilverponyâŠquestion. I use it on my rescue minisâŠdo you use the whole horse dose on a pony so they get what is listed (which is per 1,000 lbs) or do you adjust for weight? I do like it too, but that is not my point.
My question too. I just grabbed a box I have here and canât see the chromium listed anymore.
I wonder if itâs because people were complaining the chromium dosage was rather high, IIRC 5mg (?) or so.
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Variation in actual contents acknowledged, weâve fed Remission to 3 IR horses over the past 5+ years and have seen improvement in physical signs of IR (cresty neck, fat pads, etc) as confirmed by our vet, no recurrence of laminitis, and improved attitude under saddle. While there may have been other lifestyle changes contributing to all of those results, I would say itâs doing something good for our horses. We also saw better results with Remission than with another well known supplement for IR horses, so we switched back to Remission after trying something that was supposed to be âbetterâ and wasnât.[/QUOTE]
Ditto this.
⊠and merrily recommend the other product.
Remission seems to be one of those funny little products that develops an almost cult-like following because it does what it is supposed to, and then some. Maybe the believers are being hoodwinked somehow, in the absence of scientific proof, butâif my horses are happy, Iâm happy. And Iâm a scientist myself, so my âindependent studiesâ are at least guided by my training. I donât think my observations are totally bogus.
I do think AniMed could do a little tighter job of cross-checking labeling and information about their products. But, then again, we know of feed companies that have tremendous research facilities and airtight advertising units, and are still way behind the power curve on such things as, say, NSC levels in feed. Just sayinâ
I have used it on a horse that foundered with a good result. We needed to pull weight off her and in using the product, we got a thinner, happier horse. However, Tx Dept of Ag requires all such products be reviewed for whatever reason and I can no longer order it until that happens.
According to the list of ingredients on the container Remission has Se 1 ppm in a 1 oz serving (2 scoops using supplied scoop).
chicamux
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Yes but how much SE is really in Remission when they wonât tell you? Thatâs my pointâŠ[/QUOTE]
Itâs on the label. 1ppm (in one ounce.)
[QUOTE=chicamux;6183425]
According to the list of ingredients on the container Remission has Se 1 ppm in a 1 oz serving (2 scoops using supplied scoop).
chicamux[/QUOTE]
Well thatâs confusing since theyâre mixing metric with English measurement. So if I understand what theyâre saying:
1ppm = 1 mg/kg. 1kg= 1000grams. There are 28.35 grams in an ounce, so 35.27 ounces/kg.
1mg/kg / 35.27 oz/kg = 1/35.27= 0.0284 mg Se/oz.
In other words, not much.
Okay, I am going to eat some humble pie here.
I glanced at the label. My boss had read it and did not see the info on it. I assumed she was right (I really should have know betterâŠbut thatâs another story).
Here is the breakdown for those who may want to know (from another website):
REMISSION is a scientifically engineered blend of supportive natural ingredients with probiotics and a functional carbohydrate (second generation prebiotic). Nutritional support for horses foundered or prone to the risk of founder. REMISSION contains magnesium, antioxidants, Omega 3 and Omega 6 Fatty Acids and Amino Acids.
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS per ounce (2 scoop): l-Lysine 2150mg, Methionine 3000mg, Linolenic Acid (Omega 3 Fatty Acid) 510mg, Magnesium 6000mg, Selenium 1ppm, Zinc 100mg, Biotin 20mg, Niacin 40mg, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) 1200mg, Vitamin E 70IU, Total Lactic Acid Bacteria (Probiotics) 175 million CFU
Ingredients: Magnesium Oxide, Flaxseed Meal, Dl-Methionine, Stabilized Rice Bran, l-Lysine, Biotin, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, Zinc Proteinate, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (Vitamin C), Yeast Extract, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, Enterococcus (Streptococcus) faecium fermentation product, Bifidobacterium longum fermentation product, Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, mixed alpha tocopherol acetate (Vitamin E), Flax Seed Oil, Niacin, Silica.
Packaged: 4lb, 10lb
I did get a letter back when I questioned the FDA regulations, and this is what the response was. Again, I should have checked it out more thoroughly:
Dear Jackie
The last phrase of your e-mail sums it all up âjust do the best for our horses.â We at AHC/AniMed are committed to producing the highest quality supplements for all the animals for which our products are manufactured.
In the Code of Federal Regulations - CFR21, you will find the following: âFood is defined under federal statutes in Section 201(f) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act as, â(1) articles used for food or drink for man or other animals,âŠand (3) articles used for components of any such articles.â Case law has defined articles of food as referred to in the parenthetical â(other than food)â in Section 201(g)(1)© as those articles which provide taste, aroma, or nutritional value.â
DSHEA does not apply to animals.
ALL of our products, ingredients, methodology and practices are under the strict auspices of the FDA and we are in constant monitoring as well as periodic audits and investigations by this body. We are also a member in good standing with NASC (National Animal Supplement Council) and under the strict guidelines and regulations of their organization. Since the inception of AHC/AniMed the company has not only adhered to the regulations of these two entities but has consistently gone above and beyond what is required. We are proud that our record clearly reveals that we are in complete compliance with all Federal, State and Trade Associationsâ requirements.
Allow me to reiterate that if you are not 100% satisfied with your Remission, please return it to us for a full refund (with receipt) or exchange for another product of equal value (without a receipt). Please contact us at any time via phone or e-mail. We value our consumers.
Diana Toy
AHC Products INC. - ANIMED
301 W. Broadway
Winchester, KY 40391
Phone: 859-737-3441
Fax: 859-737-1143
Email: animed@ahcpinc.com
Mark Wolf, Sr
President
AHC Products, Inc - AniMed
859-737-3441
I did reply and apologize, to a pointâŠif they had simply said âread the labelâ then I would have put an end to it. Or if they had simply given me the ingredients, which are listed! But, my fault for not double-checking myself and letting others tell meâŠI usually donât listen to others, but this is a nice reminder.
And I do like RemissionâŠand would recommend it to anyone, but just donât try to communicate with Animed without a struggle 
Thanks for breaking down the actual amount! Now I can supplement selenium without worries.
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I have a question though - are their products good? Do they work?[/QUOTE]
Iâm not a big fan of the company, but I do find that Remission specifically (have not used any other products) works for my horses. Quiessence did not. You may have different results, however.
Per the company, the chromium is one of the âfermentation productsâ listed in the ingredients.
Per the company, the chromium is one of the âfermentation productsâ listed in the ingredients.
Can you link to this? Thanks!
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Can you link to this? Thanks![/QUOTE]
The information was given to me in an email⊠I got curious based on othersâ posts, so emailed. Got the same sort of runaround, but then got the âanswerâ. I was not told which fermentation product.
Like I said, crappy ânutritionistsâ⊠but the product works for my horses. shrugs
I bought a severely foundered mini at a real estate auction (he was part of the auctioned household goods - he cost more to get home that he did to buy). When I got Peanut his feet were turned-up elf shoes. His hoof wall had rotated and was growing into his sole. His toes were terribly seedy. After a year of trims he was considerable better, but still had some issues. After being put on Remission, my mini is sound. The farrier said he never thought he would ever come back like this. Itâs cheap and Iâll keep Peanut on it forever.
StG
Ive read all of these comments & concerns and would like to say i purchased 5 pounds of this product for my 17yr old gelding last fall and im getting ready to buy again, he has been turned out on grass since spring for the first time in his life, no founder or laminitis of anykind, white tail was shitty 24/7 has been pure white, hind gut was distended & is now looking great! love this product RECOMMEND
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