Resistol Ride Safe Helmet

[js]

http://www.resistolridesafe.com/

Saw an ad for this in the latest Barrel Horse News. I’m glad they are finally taking steps to make a more choice in western hat/helmet combination.

I don’t know if I like the wide part of the helmet around the outside of the hat, while the rest is under the hat. They do say there is protection for the top of the head, just seems weird that the outside part is so thick when the top must be much thinner, hard to visualize the actual helmet? I’d like to see the helmet without out the hat. Would look a little better if they had put a suede finish on the helmet part on the outside so it blends better with the hat. However, glad they are getting something out on the market that hopefully riders will wear. There is no mention of ASTM/SEI standards.

I’m sticking with a regular helmet that has passed ASTM/SEI standards.

[NoSuchPerson]

I agree that it would look better if they could put a finish on the helmet part that would make the whole thing look the same, rather than two distinct materials.

It’s actually not bad looking, given that it is a hybrid of two very different looking things with very different purposes.

[NoDQhere]

I’m impressed! Every time I hear about “western” folks suffering TBI’s I cringe, thinking that, maybe, it could have been prevented. Now I just hope that TPTB will start requiring helmets.

[beau159]

Yeah I didn’t see anything about ASTM/SEI standards either. Honestly, this is certainly a much better-looking version of a “western helmet” that I’ve seen in years past. But I’ll just stick to wearing a normal helmet. Goes with my western outfits just fine!!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/r_beau/2015%20Horse%20Pictures/Wing%20Rodeo%206-20-15%20slack%2002_zpsxqeqeib4.jpg

[HSDesign]

a little info

Hey All,

I thought I would chime in. I’m one of the designers who worked on the Ridesafe hat/helmet.
The hats are currently being tested for ASTM/SEI standards for equestrian. We had fantastic results on all tests with our prototype versions and are now just waiting for production units to finish testing.
To answer the questions about the protection, the Ridesafe hat is a patent pending design that utilizes all the negative space inside the crown and pinch to offer coverage on the top of your head, the ring around the hat is necessary to pass ASTM. We had thin versions but unfortunately those prototypes did not offer enough protection. This was a very exciting project and I hope its a nice option for western riders looking for a helmet.

[js]

[QUOTE=HSDesign;8488308]
Hey All,

I thought I would chime in. I’m one of the designers who worked on the Ridesafe hat/helmet.
The hats are currently being tested for ASTM/SEI standards for equestrian. We had fantastic results on all tests with our prototype versions and are now just waiting for production units to finish testing.
To answer the questions about the protection, the Ridesafe hat is a patent pending design that utilizes all the negative space inside the crown and pinch to offer coverage on the top of your head, the ring around the hat is necessary to pass ASTM. We had thin versions but unfortunately those prototypes did not offer enough protection. This was a very exciting project and I hope its a nice option for western riders looking for a helmet.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for joining in and answering our questions.

[Miss_Motivation]

I just saw these helmets in person at the Denver WESA wholesale trade show. They are not yet approved- apparently pending.

The hat isn’t bad but the exterior ring of protective material being shiny is not attractive- it looks like packing material left on the hat. They are also pricey, retail approximately $250. They only come in a couple sizes, so have some kind of adjustable internal frame.

Store owners I spoke to were about 50/50 on whether they ordered some, or thought they would be a tough sell due to design not being very traditional.

[bespotted]

Western helmet covers available at Hideahelmet.com

[QUOTE=NoDQhere;8469673]
I’m impressed! Every time I hear about “western” folks suffering TBI’s I cringe, thinking that, maybe, it could have been prevented. Now I just hope that TPTB will start requiring helmets.[/QUOTE]

I offer custom made helmet covers in three brim sizes and many color choices at Hideahelmet.com, also see us on Facebook and etsy.
I suggest you find the helmet that fits your head first so you’ll feel better wearing it.
My design is made with felt to allow air flow and reinforced brim for shade and holding it’s shape. Put them on & off easily, they stay on well, hold up in the rain, are washable and you can use them on different helmets. The felt has some stretch to it, so it can be used on other helmets. I custom make each one for the best fit and shape. I have different patterns for Tipperary, Troxel, Ovation, etc… Please check out Hideahelmet.com

Thank you
Latina Raville
Hideahelmet.com

[Palm_Beach]

The riders who want to wear helmets are wearing helmets. The ones that don’t, aren’t.

And before anyone posts the “do you want your loved ones bearing the burden of your care blah blah blah” first take a look at your own lives and think about whether or not you are overweight, have ever smoked, consume more than 1-2 drinks per week.

“The US Centers of Disease Control and Prevention just released their report outlining the lifestyle choices of Americans. They found that 6 out of 10 adults drink alcohol, 20% of adults smoke (and less than 50% attempted to quit last year), and only 1 in 5 adults met the guidelines for both aerobic and strength training exercises. Additionally, 6 of 10 people are overweight or obese. These unhealthy behaviors lead to increased rates of heart disease, diabetes and other chronic diseases.”

So I’ll take my chances with my one vice.

“Researchers at the Centers for Disease Control have concluded that unhealthy habits such smoking, drinking, lack of exercise and poor diets contribute to tens of thousands of premature deaths each year”

And not only are smokers taking a huge risk, they are also subjecting everyone around them to the negative health impact of secondhand smoke.

http://time.com/84514/nearly-half-of-us-deaths-can-be-prevented-with-lifestyle-changes/

[Pocket_Pony]

Here’s what I wonder about western style helmets…English helmets as they are fit to the shape of the head (profile on the outside), so they are round/oval-ish. When a rider falls, then the helmet presumably protects the head in all directions (fall where the back or side of head hits the ground, but not the face).

With a western helmet, I wonder about the brim and how that affects any torque on the neck from the head not impacting the ground in a head-like shape. For example, if the head is going to hit on the side, does the presence of the brim cause a secondary injury to the neck that might not otherwise happen because the brim changed the trajectory of the impact?

Sorry if I’m not making sense, I’m on my tablet and my thoughts don’t flow as well…

[pAin_t_Misbehavin]

Pocket Pony, I think that’s a good question, and maybe the helmet designer who posted above will chime in.

I remember before visors on “english” helmets were flexible they caused secondary injuries of the kind you mention.

[Palm_Beach]

Right off the top of my head, I know 4 people who’s helmets protected their heads but not their necks, resulting in total disability for the rest of their lives. 1 was disconnected from life support after 10 days. 1 was a quad and succumbed from related complications 3 years later, and another lived as a quad about 10 years and another is a quad and still alive after about 15 years, but not in good health. Personally, I would not want to be any 1 of the 4. I have a living will which states DNR (you all can applaud now or just hit the like button).

[pAin_t_Misbehavin]

You may want to check with ICU personnel about that DNR provision. My dad had a “desire for a dignified death” document, too, but the family still had to make the decision about DNR. Then we had to decide other things, like: is an NG tube OK? What about a feeding tube inserted into his side? How about an oxygen cannula? IV fluids? Lots of details I never considered till I was in that situation. Anyway, I advise everybody to have that talk with their family members about the details way before you think you need to.

But back to helmets. If you don’t want to wear one, don’t. It’s your personal decision. You don’t need to try and bolster your position with an argument that not wearing a helmet is going to keep a person from lingering in a disabled condition. That’s just not very logical.

[Aces_N_Eights]

[QUOTE=Palm Beach;8648749]
The riders who want to wear helmets are wearing helmets. The ones that don’t, aren’t.

And before anyone posts the “do you want your loved ones bearing the burden of your care blah blah blah” first take a look at your own lives and think about whether or not you are overweight, have ever smoked, consume more than 1-2 drinks per week.

“The US Centers of Disease Control and Prevention just released their report outlining the lifestyle choices of Americans. They found that 6 out of 10 adults drink alcohol, 20% of adults smoke (and less than 50% attempted to quit last year), and only 1 in 5 adults met the guidelines for both aerobic and strength training exercises. Additionally, 6 of 10 people are overweight or obese. These unhealthy behaviors lead to increased rates of heart disease, diabetes and other chronic diseases.”

So I’ll take my chances with my one vice.

“Researchers at the Centers for Disease Control have concluded that unhealthy habits such smoking, drinking, lack of exercise and poor diets contribute to tens of thousands of premature deaths each year”

And not only are smokers taking a huge risk, they are also subjecting everyone around them to the negative health impact of secondhand smoke.

http://time.com/84514/nearly-half-of-us-deaths-can-be-prevented-with-lifestyle-changes/[/QUOTE]

I guess I’m headed out of this world in a big greasy cheeseburger, alcohol, flaming, non seatbelt, helmet wearing ball of flames with a big grin my face.

[Palm_Beach]

[QUOTE=Aces N Eights;8649617]
I guess I’m headed out of this world in a big greasy cheeseburger, alcohol, flaming, non seatbelt, helmet wearing ball of flames with a big grin my face.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I think we are all old enough to recognize and accept risk, or take steps to reduce it, or not take steps to reduce it. But to single out one risk and ignore the others is silly.

[js]

[QUOTE=Palm Beach;8649680]
Exactly. I think we are all old enough to recognize and accept risk, or take steps to reduce it, or not take steps to reduce it. But to single out one risk and ignore the others is silly.[/QUOTE]

This thread is ONLY addressing one helmet and it’s design for the western riders. It isn’t discussing or addressing injuries of any nature. It’s merely a discussion on the specific helmet itself. If you don’t have anything of value to add to that discussion, please start your own thread to discuss injuries and helmet use.

[Palm_Beach]

[QUOTE=js;8649698]
This thread is ONLY addressing one helmet and it’s design for the western riders. It isn’t discussing or addressing injuries of any nature. It’s merely a discussion on the specific helmet itself. If you don’t have anything of value to add to that discussion, please start your own thread to discuss injuries and helmet use.[/QUOTE]

Well then, what about post #3?
“I’m impressed! Every time I hear about “western” folks suffering TBI’s I cringe, thinking that, maybe, it could have been prevented. Now I just hope that TPTB will start requiring helmets.”

What about post #8, which also breaks forum rules because it’s advertising?
"I offer custom made helmet covers in three brim sizes and many color choices at Hideahelmet.com, also see us on Facebook and etsy.
I suggest you find the helmet that fits your head first so you’ll feel better wearing it.
My design is made with felt to allow air flow and reinforced brim for shade and holding it’s shape. Put them on & off easily, they stay on well, hold up in the rain, are washable and you can use them on different helmets. The felt has some stretch to it, so it can be used on other helmets. I custom make each one for the best fit and shape. I have different patterns for Tipperary, Troxel, Ovation, etc… Please check out Hideahelmet.com

Thank you
Latina Raville
Hideahelmet.com"

Topics frequently go off topic. You don’t get to control a thread, and selectively apply your “rules” just to posts that you don’t agree with.

[aktill]

I applaud the effort of this helmet, but in my mind it’s like gluten and dairy free macaroni and cheese. Not terrible in and of itself, but really terrible compared to the original.

In the same way that pseudo mac and cheese won’t convince mac and cheese eaters to convert, I doubt this will appeal to non helmet users. I also think it’s functionally worse as a helmet too, honestly, compared to current offerings.

I wear a helmet every time I ride. I wouldn’t wear this one. It’s WAY too expensive, and it’s the equivalent of that sorta mac-and-cheese compared to a proper cowboy hat.

I LOVE the look of a cowboy hat for photos, and I wear one off the horse, but I can live with the english helmets for now just because they’re currently better designed AS A HELMET (ie, cooler, lighter, cheaper, less bulky, more elegantly designed).

I like the concept of a brim, but the offerings I’ve seen don’t work for me. To be perfectly honest, I’m not wearing something that requires either requires duct tape to install or looks like a seat cover. OEM, OEM look, or nothing in my book.

Just honest feedback.

[NoSuchPerson]

[QUOTE=Pocket Pony;8648759]
Here’s what I wonder about western style helmets…English helmets as they are fit to the shape of the head (profile on the outside), so they are round/oval-ish. When a rider falls, then the helmet presumably protects the head in all directions (fall where the back or side of head hits the ground, but not the face).

With a western helmet, I wonder about the brim and how that affects any torque on the neck from the head not impacting the ground in a head-like shape… [/QUOTE]

But the brim is just squishy felt, isn’t it? So it shouldn’t have any effect.

I think aktill is right - this helmet isn’t sufficiently cowboy hat-like to make anyone who isn’t already wearing a helmet start wearing one.

As far as wearing or not wearing a helmet, I wear one every time I ride. I haven’t always been of that mindset. But, older, wiser…

And the risks of other things that I may or may not do are irrelevant to the consideration. Wearing a helmet is going to reduce my risk of a head injury while riding. That is the only element in the calculation. The fact that I may or may not have eaten lunch at McDonalds this week is irrelevant to my risk of head injury while riding. It’s relevant to my risk of diabetes and cardiovascular disease, but that’s a separate calculation.

However, the “or” of probabilities is additive (more or less), so, by reducing the probability of dying prematurely from a head injury sustained in a fall from a horse, I can also reduce my overall probability of dying prematurely from any cause. So the argument that wearing a helmet doesn’t matter because you smoke, eat fatty foods, and don’t wear a seatbelt is false.

In general, I don’t really have a problem with adults making their own decisions about wearing or not wearing helmets. But, I think all organizations ought to adopt the 4-H practice of requiring all kids to wear helmets at all of the organization’s events.

[Go_Fish]

Thank you for your response. I appreciate that you’ve come to the table with SOMETHING that fills the gap for western riders. It’s a start, and just like with English helmets that were hideous at the start, I think design features will improve with time.

I still occasionally turn back for my cutter friends and wear my GPA. I may just look into a western-style helmet once they are on the market.