I have posted this before, thought I would try again. We bought a GREAT ISH this last Jan. He is NOT registered and we REALLY want find out who his RID sire is. He was born in Mass. He is by a RID and out of a Hungerian mare. MArtha Priced bought him( he went to Vermont with her)… she then moved to Montana and that is when we bought him. Bentley( is his barn name ) is a grey 6 year old gelding… We are now going to get him to a American Warmblood inspection, but would rather have him registered ISH. Also I have a wonderderful children jumper thoroughbred mare that is looking for a boyfriend for next spring…And we are wanting an RID, so we would like to find Bentley’s dad… Did I mention how much we LOVE Bentley… Thank you in advance,
What’s your horse’s name, do you know anything about his breeding at all, names of sire/dam, or anything?
There aren’t all that many RID stallions. Perhaps you could email their owners and ask if any of them have records of breeding to a Hungarian mare.
http://irishdraught.com/horses/roster.php?sunid=17
Also Deb
bachiahtat@msn.com
had an unapproved (gray) ID stallion and I believe she also had an interest in Hungarian horses. She has sold her stallion and supposedly the owner planned to get him approved but I don’t know his status
You can ask the IDHSNA if you can submit a hair sample for DNA - I have no idea if they would do that. If the sire is an approved RID, his DNA is on file (post a certain year, not sure when DNA became a requirement for registration). To register a foal, its $50 for DNA
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There aren’t all that many RID stallions. Perhaps you could email their owners and ask if any of them have records of breeding to a Hungarian mare.
http://irishdraught.com/horses/roster.php?sunid=17
Also Deb
bachiahtat@msn.com
had an unapproved (gray) ID stallion and I believe she also had an interest in Hungarian horses. She has sold her stallion and supposedly the owner planned to get him approved but I don’t know his status[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the lead…I emailed her straight away…As for the DNA, that gets a litlle pricey, as I have no idea which stallion to start with…I thought of that right away, then was educated how that works;) So I am hoping my post will get to right person and I will find out…Otherwise I will be shopping for an RID for my mare.
You might email some of the people who are active in the registry and know all of the stallions. Brianne Sells of Oak Hill Irish Draughts was able to figure out the breeding on my daughter’s older horse, despite the fact that he was bred in Ireland.
There are a lot of really nice ID stallions in this country. Each one seems quite distinctive to me, so you may want to pick one from similar lines to the sire of your well loved IDSH. I own a fabulous ID gelding (who is by Brianne’s late stallion Glenlara). He is very brave, as well as very quiet and happy on the trails. He packs me around the trails, and happily packs guests of the daughters around. My younger daughter’s IDSH, (sire is Snowford Bellman) is much more of a competition horse. He likes dressage and loves to jump. He tolerates the trails but doesn’t love them. My older daughter has a 3 year old (by PL Diamond Hill) who is like a big, social, puppy. He loves everybody and everything. Next year she will do more serious training with him, but now he loves his quiet trail rides. I think he will be very athletic as even at age 3, he has a very balanced canter and effortless free jump.
I don’t know if our horses are typical of their lineage, but they are certainly quite different from each other, and quite outstanding individuals. You will enjoy any IDSH that you breed, but will probably be happiest with one from your favorite lineage.
AKB, Thank you…I sent a email to Brianne with pictures…Fingers are crossed!
Good thought AKB. Brianne and Waterwitch who posts here a wonderful sources of info - walking ID encyclopedias 
Brianne bred my 2 mares and I just got my one mares dam from her.
So with investagation…I have recived one possiable match, it was a private email…She said that a popular sire standing at the time in the area was Rockrimmon Silver Diamond, Ok, so who stood him in the states??? Looks like he is back in Ireland.
Brianne or Waterwitch (on COTH) will know who owned him in this country. You also can email the current owners in Ireland. Do you know the color of your gelding’s mom? If the mare was not grey, you do need to be looking for a grey stallion.
This is exciting! You might be getting close to an answer!
All I know about the mare is that she is an hungerian… I think I will get in touch with University of Kentucky…This is getting excited, I dont give up to easy:lol:
Rockrimmon Silver Diamond’s United States owner died and he had arranged for the stallion to return to Ireland so the use of a stallion in a rare breed would not be lost. RSD had already been approved in Ireland before he came over. The family dispersed the farm’s horses with Barry O’Briens death though Barry himself had arranged homes for his horses up to his end. Orchard Hill Equestrian Center was the farm name and it still exists but has a new owner. Barry stood other stallions as well. Ri An Domhan was the other purebred and the RIDSH stallion was Gypsy Diamond.
Other stallions who stood in the Northeast are Corrcullen and Cradilo but with shipped semen it could be from anywhere. Do you know the dam…was she a grey? If she was not a grey then you know that the sire was grey and that would limit it some. Did he have a name that might give a clue? He was concieved in 2004 if his age is correct. I am not sure what year RSD went back to Ireland, I am sure Liz would remeber. here is a video that has him in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaqQ8AAUU1s
The society website is www.irishdraught.com.
PatO
Thank you for all the information…this just may lead to my sucess!
