How Universities handle sexual assault…hell even murder. What a joke. research the case of Teresa Allore, and you can learn everything you need to know. They knew there was a serial rapist (actually, serial killer) on campus and instead of doing anything about it, they just covered it up so it wouldn’t hurt admissions or funding.
So many people live in a bubble, not aware of what is happening in the world, and how it is effecting lives forever.
The delusion is real. Pot, meet kettle.
Exactly.
Reminds me of a boss I had who would do the same thing, and then exclaim in frustration “you’re not listening to me!”
I finally told him I was listening to every word, but that I was not going to agree with him no matter how many times he repeated his opinion.
Also, judges make mistakes and bad choices all the time. Judges make bad decisions. I have witnessed as a victim myself in court. The judge literally allowed my attacker to have his guns returned to him to “sell for profit” because they were worth so much and he had no job. To a known violent offender, who had a weapons ban, who was already on probation, and who obtained the guns illegally. Allowed guns be returned to a man who actually attempted murder.
Judges are not all that, most are too scared to make a decision that can be appealed that they weigh on the side of caution, and in that decision, put the lives of victims at risk over and over again.
What I think is (unfortunately) ‘interesting’ about this is an apparent lack of the big picture. You can get expelled from college for all kinds of activities, which can include failing to turn in homework, academic fraud, trying to live in your car on campus, physical altercations, possession of a weapon of any kind, and on some campuses, using alcohol. Do they propose any expulsion requires the equivalent of a criminal trial?
The majority of those things don’t require you to register as a sex offender.
You can also get suspended/expelled from USEF for a number of reasons that don’t require the equivalent of a criminal trial.
A sex offense and just about anything you listed are not equivalents.
From 1978?
Neither does a ban handed down from Safe Sport.
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This!! Judges are not all that - they are far from perfect and make mistakes have prejudices and ideology that steers them in the decision making process- just like Teachers are not al that either- we think we are in the hands of justice but we are not just like we think we are being taught by someone with all the answers and the most objective mind- the appalling lack of both justice and education shows that we have to stop putting people on pedestals just because of what role or uniform they wear
I thought this was one of the most interesting parts of that article. It appears that in their zeal to support victims and be “tough” on sexual misconduct, colleges are providing less due process for students accused of sexual misconduct than other types of misconduct. That does seem indefensible.
Judge Browning also noted the difference between UNM’s process for students accused of non-sexual misconduct, who get an evidentiary hearing, and its process for students accused of sexual misconduct, who do not. This phenomenon is hardly unique to UNM; a disturbing number of universities offer fewer procedural protections to students accused of sexual misconduct than students accused of non-sexual misconduct. Other schools that provide students with a meaningful hearing in non-sexual misconduct cases, but not in sexual misconduct cases, include Brown, Cal Tech, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn, Tufts, UC Berkeley, UCLA, the University of Virginia, and Washington University in St. Louis, to name just a few.
Yes, and things have not changed since then.
I practice in an area where administrative cases are common. Most settle, but when we do have to get into discovery, it is quite common for testimony to be taken by written requests and answers and from a distance. Lots of times a witness may be located out of the country. Given the trial schedule, the attorneys just work to make sure this is done with enough time left on the schedule to allow for any necessary back and forth with the delays associated with written requests. Even where the depositions are taken live, they are not taken before the administrative judges but submitted later, which is also common in civil cases. The administrative judge(s) that decides the cases can and does make determinations on credibility of the testimony all the time. Safe Sport isn’t making up any procedures out of thin air.
Why does it feel like some of the posters on this thread are lawyer(s) testing out arguments against safe sport on the rest of us and trying to elicit counterarguments and process info. I swear multiple posters keep introducing that college campus bs every couple of pages as if we haven’t all read the whole thread.
I hope every single predator in the industry is awake at night every night fearing the appearance of their name on the list.
I also suspect some of these alters are lawyers 
I think one particular lawyer especially :lol::lol:
You can’t possibly be referring to any ‘pro bono’ ambulance-chasers…:winkgrin:
What’s been posted here is too well-written to be consistent with BN’s Facebook rants.
I can’t love this post enough! Love your rational response .
I think so too.
It is interesting to me how many people are still in ‘poor Rob’ mode and still blaming Safe Sport. I think they should try and look at it from another perspective. He was a serial rapist who got away with it for 35 years. If he had been caught, he might have been a convicted felon with prison time and never had the accolades he did. He did pretty well for himself, I think.
Yep. here you can see a judge handing down a fairly light sentence to a grown man who gave an 11 year old chlamydia. no jail time, probation and potential to have it totally removed from his record? even legal processes can be a bit… inconsistent. https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/06/…d-lets-him-go/
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